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PostSubject: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:16 pm

Hey guys, a friend of mine is experiencing a bit of a problem with the Ceadeus, where no matter what he does, he just can't seem to kill/repel it. Now, he's a seasoned hunter (Been playing since MHFU), so he's not bad at the game, and he's using the Lagiacrus Blade+, and Rathian armor gemmed for AUS, Health+50, and Recovery Speed Up. He's apparently wailing on it for the full 30 minutes, but it just doesn't seem to die. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks! Yes by vort
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:35 pm

There's your problem: the armor set.
I don't know what weapon class is of Lagiacrus Blade+ so that will be helpful

As for the armor set, Rathian armor is terrible. AuS (and better) can be easily achieved by Rathalos armor. Heck, I used Jaggi armor until I got my hands on Rath Soul armor. Health+50 is unnecessary because food boosts, and recovery speed up is absolutely useless: it only speeds up the time it takes for the red portion of your health to recover, which by the way, you should be using Mega Potions/Potions.

Give me the weapon class and I can guide you to armor sets with good skills that increase your damage output.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:47 pm

@Sai_ wrote:
There's your problem: the armor set.
I don't know what weapon class is of Lagiacrus Blade+ so that will be helpful

As for the armor set, Rathian armor is terrible. AuS (and better) can be easily achieved by Rathalos armor. Heck, I used Jaggi armor until I got my hands on Rath Soul armor. Health+50 is unnecessary because food boosts, and recovery speed up is absolutely useless: it only speeds up the time it takes for the red portion of your health to recover, which by the way, you should be using Mega Potions/Potions.

Give me the weapon class and I can guide you to armor sets with good skills that increase your damage output.

He's using a greatsword.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:58 pm

Since this is low rank, the weapons' damage is dependent on AuL. Using full low rank Rathalos armor, and with a talisman of +2 Attack, you can get AuL, speed sharpening, and if you have a weapon slot, you can negate Recovery down (which isn't significantly detrimental anyways). Your friend should be spamming GS lv3 charge by doing the infinite charge combo.

Additionally, if you are ok using Duramboros Cap, you only need an attack+1 talisman to get AuL and speed sharpening.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:02 pm

@Sai_ wrote:
Since this is low rank, the weapons' damage is dependent on AuL. Using full low rank Rathalos armor, and with a talisman of +2 Attack, you can get AuL, speed sharpening, and if you have a weapon slot, you can negate Recovery down (which isn't significantly detrimental anyways). Your friend should be spamming GS lv3 charge by doing the infinite charge combo.

Probably should have mentioned this, but he has hit high rank, but for some reason he can't beat it a second time. He's up to 7 star offline at the moment. Sorry for not mentioning this earlier!
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:10 pm

Well he should upgrade his GS to the highest possible level. Spamming lv3 charges should kill him, since I was able to kill him in one single quest every time when I was high rank. Reach lv8 star quests and get Lagiacrus' GS upgraded even further.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:21 pm

There's a lot missing information... so lets start with this: Is he using the Balistas or the Dragonator? Early on, when your weapons are lower rank, you will do more damage with the UW Ballista than doing straight up damage. So if you can, bring a few Ballistas (you can purchase them from the Trader). Also, the Dragonator will do a conciderable amount of damage, and it resets every 15 minutes or so. So he can do the dragonator twice in one battle.

Another thing to remember is that Cedeaus' weakest spot is his beard. If you just want the kill, and do not care much for the horns, then focus on that. Use Ballistas on the horns, since they do their full damage regardless of where you hit.

Hope this all helped. Let us know.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:15 pm

Also, the reason he was successful the 1st time was that the urgent quest against Ceadeus (Save Moga Village) is a strict repel quest. The other Ceadeus quest (The Decisive Battle) is a Repel/Slay, which is tough to get the kill in one try with Low Rank weapons. Damage does carry over if you get a repel - the next run will have Ceadeus wounded already, and he should go down pretty quickly. If he's not getting the repel, there's something severely wrong.

I think that the urgent Ceadeus has very low HP, or a strict requirement for breaking the horn. At least for me, the quest ended rather early when I used the nator to knock off his horn on his first trip up the wall.

The rest is good advice - AUM or AUL for armor skills (almost anything else at Low doesn't matter), target beard, and abuse the nator/ballista. Using buffs will boost his damage output too.

Also, check Youtube for when to use the nator. There's a particular behavior script that Ceadeus will follow - if the nator is ready, and he goes into rage, he'll swim down to the bottom near the entrance, come across the bottom, then up the wall towards the nator. Time it right and it does all the damage needed to knock off the horn.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:00 am

Just get Volvi armor, gem in AuL (need only Attack+5 tali or OOO), remove water weakness by food skills. I beat whole High rank with it. Got great skills for general use (deafult AuM, tremor proof, evasion+1). The only downside is its look.

As for Ceadeus just abuse dragonator, don't use balista. For this fight i prefer lance/gunlance rather than GS. It's much easier and faster.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:47 am

Yeah I usually go for my Rath Armor (Gemmed up) and either the Lagi Long Sword or a decent fire lance (DLC Lance perfect even for HR). Spam the hell out of Ballistas and Dragonator and go town on him. Managed to repel and kill it with this under 20 mins.

Never really bothered with GS until High Rank.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Needed: Can't Beat Ceadeus?   Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:40 pm

When I was just mainly doing Moga quests, all I've used was the Jaggi set with the fire Lance from the "kill 20 Bullfango event" at Tanzia. Spammed the crap out of it, used the dragonator when it does the erratic swimming, then some balista action.
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