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BAMF
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PostSubject: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:55 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i140KCB_D5M

I know this video has been seen time and time again on this site, but what I want to know is EXACTLY what did they do? and how did they do it?

This is what I can salvage from the video so far:

-The players all place bombs in front of Alatreon, the recorder kicks Alatreon, causing him to roar with the bombs exploding in his face and fall down

-The recorder and a gunner bomb Alatreon's tail while the other 2 players bomb his chest

-During this time the gunner has fired Para shots and induces the status effect

-During the paralysis it appears the 3 players bomb Alatreon's face and then move to bomb his right foreleg, the gunner bombs the tail before going around and bombing the other side of his tail

-The group then meets in front and places all of their bombs at Alatreon's face before kicking the bombs and having them explode as Alatreon's paralysis ends

NOTE: All bombs places were LBB+ with the exception of the SBB used to detonate them.



Can any more information be salvaged on how they did this? I would like to be able to kill Alatreon just as quick and painlessly.
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:16 pm

Easy. They hack. The end.

Bring on the believers!
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:22 pm

Rook wrote:
Easy. They hack. The end.

Bring on the believers!


That's probably what I was gonna say.

Then again, the game has been out for a long time, and to keep paying for a game you already bought, you'd get pretty serious about it, I think.

My guess is that they planned that out for MONTHS.
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:14 pm

That actually probably wouldn't take much planning to do. Just assign 2 leaders, tell the other two to "follow me" and group at the points at a certain time.
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:24 pm

Quote:
Easy. They hack. The end.

Bring on the believers!


Well lets look at some maths...


Alatreon has 10,000HP, ignoring the damage of the SBBs the LBB+s do 120DMG, 180DMG with the Bombardier armor skill...


Bombs do constant damage and are not affected by hitzones, plus Alatreon was paralyzed for a good while, raising the damage multiplier to X1.05...(189DMG)


Assuming they have Bombardier (and ignoring the 1.05 multiplier):


10,000/180=55.5~60bombs

60/4=15bombs per person


With or without the Pyro Felyne kitchen skill, a person would only be able to bring enough materials for 12~13LBB+s, technically making this video impossible...althought I did read the Japanese games have scaled-down difficulties, making it enirely possible if it scaled Alatreon's health down enough to allow him to die with 52LBB+s


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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:05 pm

BAMF wrote:
Quote:
Easy. They hack. The end.

Bring on the believers!


Well lets look at some maths...


Alatreon has 10,000HP, ignoring the damage of the SBBs the LBB+s do 120DMG, 180DMG with the Bombardier armor skill...


Bombs do constant damage and are not affected by hitzones, plus Alatreon was paralyzed for a good while, raising the damage multiplier to X1.05...(189DMG)


Assuming they have Bombardier (and ignoring the 1.05 multiplier):


10,000/180=55.5~60bombs

60/4=15bombs per person


With or without the Pyro Felyne kitchen skill, a person would only be able to bring enough materials for 12~13LBB+s, technically making this video impossible...althought I did read the Japanese games have scaled-down difficulties, making it enirely possible if it scaled Alatreon's health down enough to allow him to die with 52LBB+s




The math was good up until the simple addition of how many bombs a player can take.

With Pyro, they can have 15 LBB+
2 pre-made LBB+
3 pre-made LBB (turned into + by pyro)
plus combinations for 10 more.
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:00 am

Not only that, but you can only place 2 at a time...

So.... ya.
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:29 am

ok, seems doable, now...when we try to do it?. seriously, i will be glad to try at least, and archieving it will be awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:46 am

remember that the small barrel bombs also inflict a small amount of damage

and the recorder in the video used 14 LBB+ im assuming they kept abandoning quest till they all got the necessary kitchen skill
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PostSubject: Re: Alatreon Under a Minute: Analysis?   Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:54 am

I know, I mentioned I didn't factor in the SBB damage. However if the recorder did in fact lay 14 LBB+s then it could or could not work...


i was asking YOU guys if you could help analyze this
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