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| Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph | | Devil's Crush (P) | | 39% | [ 11 ] | | Devil's Crush (G) | | 7% | [ 2 ] | | Alatreon Metamorph | | 53% | [ 15 ] |
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Snipez Popo

Posts: 50 Join date: 2010-08-12 Location: New Jersey
 | Subject: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:05 pm | |
| I need help. I'm not ready for Alatreon or Deviljho yet but I was wondering that when I am ready which hammer I should get: Devil's Crush (if this is it, which one) or Alatreon Metamorph. The materials needed to get each one don't matter to me. There are no allegedly rare Skypiercers so I don't care about the mats :P . P.S. I don't think there are any topics posted on this already. I searched keywords like "Devil's Crush", "Alatreon Hammer", "Alatreon Metamorph". I'm sorry if this has been discussed before  . |
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nasalsniper312 Tigrex

Posts: 1057 Join date: 2010-07-13 Location: Satan's frozen lake
Monster Hunter Information Primary MH Title: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite Server: US (includes Canada and surounding areas) Online ID:
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:08 pm | |
| I beileive we decided that alatreon metamorph is better, If I remember correctly. I still hold the opinion that in general endline weps are all going to be fairly closein terms of damge. I use both just because I have them, alatreon metamorph is alot easier to make in my opinion though, so you should probably go 4 that |
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eric89caon Rathian

Posts: 905 Join date: 2010-06-30 Age: 100 Location: Canada
Monster Hunter Information Primary MH Title: Monster Hunter Tri Server: US (includes Canada and surounding areas) Online ID:
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:09 pm | |
| There was a big disscusion about this in a lance thread (Rook would turn it to a hammer topic) so that's why you didn't see it. I think it was a stalemate with both sides presenting good arguments.
Edit: the devils crush with the high atk beats the one with higher affinity, atk allways beats affinity. |
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haruno Deviljho

Posts: 1792 Join date: 2010-07-31 Age: 17 Location: California
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:15 pm | |
| Devil's crush wins if they're both at purple sharpness. If metamorph is at a higher sharpness then it wins. Overall devils crush wins due to more ko'ing power and damage overall it just needs to sharpne more =/ |
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nasalsniper312 Tigrex

Posts: 1057 Join date: 2010-07-13 Location: Satan's frozen lake
Monster Hunter Information Primary MH Title: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite Server: US (includes Canada and surounding areas) Online ID:
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:16 pm | |
| | haruno wrote: | | Devil's crush wins if they're both at purple sharpness. If metamorph is at a higher sharpness then it wins. Overall devils crush wins due to more ko'ing power and damage overall it just needs to sharpne more =/ |
how does it have more Ko power, it techically has less as it loses sharpness faster=less time smacking in purple sharpness=less Ko unless you sharpen everytime it loses purple, even then they tie in KO |
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haruno Deviljho

Posts: 1792 Join date: 2010-07-31 Age: 17 Location: California
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:19 pm | |
| | nasalsniper312 wrote: | | haruno wrote: | | Devil's crush wins if they're both at purple sharpness. If metamorph is at a higher sharpness then it wins. Overall devils crush wins due to more ko'ing power and damage overall it just needs to sharpne more =/ |
how does it have more Ko power, it techically has less as it loses sharpness faster=less time smacking in purple sharpness=less Ko unless you sharpen everytime it loses purple, even then they tie in KO | raw and sharpness are the only things that affect ko element does nothing to it at all. And if you're a decent hammer user you can easily ko before losing your purple sharpness. Admitedly you'll lose your purple when you're hitting a ko'd monster but hey you have teammates for that |
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nasalsniper312 Tigrex

Posts: 1057 Join date: 2010-07-13 Location: Satan's frozen lake
Monster Hunter Information Primary MH Title: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite Server: US (includes Canada and surounding areas) Online ID:
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:27 pm | |
| | haruno wrote: | | nasalsniper312 wrote: | | haruno wrote: | | Devil's crush wins if they're both at purple sharpness. If metamorph is at a higher sharpness then it wins. Overall devils crush wins due to more ko'ing power and damage overall it just needs to sharpne more =/ |
how does it have more Ko power, it techically has less as it loses sharpness faster=less time smacking in purple sharpness=less Ko unless you sharpen everytime it loses purple, even then they tie in KO | raw and sharpness are the only things that affect ko element does nothing to it at all. And if you're a decent hammer user you can easily ko before losing your purple sharpness. Admitedly you'll lose your purple when you're hitting a ko'd monster but hey you have teammates for that |
I'm ot saying anyones better, I'm jut pointing put that they tie in Ko beacuase of their differences, I know element has nothing to do with it, and I said nothing about that, I honestly hink their both awesome weapons, although I generally use alluring lotus more often. I wish that the OP put a "their both awesome weapons" choice =/ |
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Snipez Popo

Posts: 50 Join date: 2010-08-12 Location: New Jersey
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:32 pm | |
| | nasalsniper312 wrote: | | I wish that the OP put a "their both awesome weapons" choice =/ |
But that's too easy :P .
Honestly, I'm sorry but this newb needs some serious help (I'm a newb not noob; there's a difference). |
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nasalsniper312 Tigrex

Posts: 1057 Join date: 2010-07-13 Location: Satan's frozen lake
Monster Hunter Information Primary MH Title: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite Server: US (includes Canada and surounding areas) Online ID:
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:34 pm | |
| | Snipez wrote: | | nasalsniper312 wrote: | | I wish that the OP put a "their both awesome weapons" choice =/ |
But that's too easy :P .
Honestly, I'm sorry but this newb needs some serious help (I'm a newb not noob; there's a difference). |
I still think alatreon metamorph is way easier to get, stupid jho fangs |
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xlPickleBottlelx Cephalos

Posts: 202 Join date: 2010-09-12 Age: 15 Location: Your Closet
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:43 pm | |
| why are there two different bars of sharpness in the wiki?
Devils Crush P wins though |
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Snipez Popo

Posts: 50 Join date: 2010-08-12 Location: New Jersey
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:44 pm | |
| | nasalsniper312 wrote: | I still think alatreon metamorph is way easier to get, stupid jho fangs |
So, I'm guessing you're voting for Ala. Will you then please submit in the polls?
P.S. How do I check the polls without submitting a vote? |
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Evilpwner Rathian

Posts: 932 Join date: 2010-07-17 Age: 15 Location: C-C-C-C-CANADA!
Monster Hunter Information Primary MH Title: Monster Hunter Tri Server: US (includes Canada and surounding areas) Online ID: AMZAYM
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:45 pm | |
| It says at the top. The lower bar is with Sharpness +1 (Handicraft).
@ Snipez: Click 'vew results' (or whatever it's specifically called) which is just under the question and choices. DCP is at 5, AM is at 2. |
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Snipez Popo

Posts: 50 Join date: 2010-08-12 Location: New Jersey
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:47 pm | |
| | xlPickleBottlelx wrote: | why are there two different bars of sharpness in the wiki?
Devils Crush P wins though |
The bottom sharpness bar is if you have the Sharpness +1 skill. That's why it's always bigger. If you read the top of the weapon trees' pages you'll see that stuff. I'm not getting angry at you just letting you know.
Also: Why does Crush (P) win? Can you explain please? |
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Snipez Popo

Posts: 50 Join date: 2010-08-12 Location: New Jersey
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| | evilpwner wrote: | @ Snipez: Click 'vew results' (or whatever it's specifically called) which is just under the question and choices. DCP is at 5, AM is at 2. |
Thanks!
We have a clear cut winner but I won't tell the results :P .
I want to keep this going longer so people give me explanations. |
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xlPickleBottlelx Cephalos

Posts: 202 Join date: 2010-09-12 Age: 15 Location: Your Closet
 | Subject: Re: Devil's Crush vs. Alatreon Metamorph (Hammer Help) Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:50 pm | |
| Actually, aletreon would be better, the sharpness lasts longer |
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