i need to know at what point it does this. i was planning on using a set with sharpness+1 adrenaline+2 and great luck for ceadeus.

but does the reaver do more damage with this set?

or does the dark claw still outdamage it?

Not sure if it outdamages it since he is weak to dragon and demise is pretty much a beast.

I can only recommend not to bring Cha-Cha if you are going for adrenaline as he annoyingly always heals me out of it.

yet calamity gets a lot more out of adrenaline and red spirit bar compared to demise. someone have to make the math, but right now i'm too lazy

Using common sense (which isn't perfect) I would suggest that Reaver "Calamity" only outdamages Dark Claw "Demise" when you should be using a weapon of another element. Like not-dragon.

can someone run teh numbers with my set and red spirit bar?

Technically no because you need awakening for the Elemental damage on the reaver.

i know this much, i was wondering if someone cared to do the math.

My point is: red spirit bar and adrenaline are %bonus that apply only to raw damage, and calamity have much more raw. Does this manage to even the difference in element?

Anyone willing to make the numbers?

Edit: nevermind i did them myself

If you have the 2 talons, adrenaline+2 and are in red spirit bar and hit the broken beard part demise deals about 6% more damage. Notice that i considered calamity as white sharpness and demise as purple. As long as calamity is in purple it outdamages demise but it's not worth considering, as much as it's not worth considering other hitzones as beard is the weakspot and i want to hit that (other good hitspot is tail wich have very similar values anyway). On the horn demise wins, but that's even with when you will hit the beard before it breaks, where calamity wins by a large amount.

Funny thing is if you compare demise with sharp+1 against clamity with awaken demise wins by something like 1% only, except calamity will need more sharpening.

Other "fixed" bonus as survivor or mightpills/demondrugs move the balance a little more to demise benefit, altough the difference is smallish.

i edited my above post with the answer to my own doubt. i had already stated i don't need generic "x wins" answers

ps: that weapon calculator is funny but it rather sucks for various reasons

i just did 2 runs. one using demise, one using calamity.

877 attack on the demise (no heroics thou )

1040 attack on the calamity (with heroics and yes...HOLY F'ING HELL)

in both situations i had the kitchen attack up large and cha cha's attack up.

my first run has 21:20, my second was 25:27

so it seems that the demise is indeed better (but i havnt calcuated it sorry :/)