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PostSubject: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:45 pm

Avid Sword and Shield User, I love the momentum and ferocity of SnS! I've been told that I am very good but I know there is always room for improvement so I'd love to read and learn about how others who have been playing longer than me like to apply their swords and shields to monsters' throats!

K, so, usually when I approach a monster the first thing I will do is position myself towards it at an angle that A. Wont interfere with any Hammer/Gunner users in the group, and B. Will allow me to make the initial strike without being hit. When i get to that position, usually on the side of any given monster, facing the neck area, I'll pull out the shield (unless i have Earplugs) to block the ensuing scream. By the time the monster initiates its attack I will have had a full SnS barrage and a spin slash connected, thereafter I'll either evade or wait until the monsters turn is over before recommencing.

Tell me if theres anything i can do better. Constructive, not demoralizing criticism is wanted. thanks Yes by vort
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:56 pm

Use sword only combos for teh DPS @ 3@
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:04 pm

I only use it to be a hipster...
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:08 pm

my tactics are simple. i aim for the legs so i can trip the mobs over ^^ exceptions mobs that do not trip over.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:09 pm

I guess i way over analyze my methods lol.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:11 pm

tactics...

do bugger all and leech Hit it 'till it dies?
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:12 pm

@Andrew. wrote:
tactics...

do bugger all and leech Hit it 'till it dies?

Don't get hit.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:17 pm

Yall are sooo articulate. -_-
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:23 pm

There's not that much that can be said about the SNS tactics. Stick to the monster, use evasion to keep attacking as long as possible. Use sword combo for dmg, shield if near head. Don't get in harm's way, try and get as many item uses (sonics/lifepowders), you are the one with the most opportunity.

For the rest, try and aim for weak spots ofc, and always use the correct element...
SNS is a lot about experience and quick reactions.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:32 pm

I pride myself on reaction time. I'll surprise myself by evading some of the more lucrative monster attacks that i thought would surely result in masive damage and some kind of blight. This happens the most often when im fighting Alatreon
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:55 pm

There's a guide section for a reas0on
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:01 pm

@Ultimate Jaggi wrote:
There's a guide section for a reas0on

Guide=/=Discussion. If you post in the guide section, you actually have to post a guide (sense:)). Anyhow, if you're gonna debate how to use a weapon in MH3, then the tri section is the way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:04 pm

@Win32error wrote:
@Ultimate Jaggi wrote:
There's a guide section for a reas0on

Guide=/=Discussion. If you post in the guide section, you actually have to post a guide (sense:)). Anyhow, if you're gonna debate how to use a weapon in MH3, then the tri section is the way to go.

I meant there are guides for what tactics to use.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:26 pm

I guess a good set you could use is Lagi armor gemmed with evasion.

You'll have Razor sharp, element attack up, evasion, status atk down.


Or you could go for a helios armor set to give HGE, Sharpness+, and evasion if you have a wonder charm (or you could gem I think).




Also, you could keep doing an all bladed assault too.
Try not to fully complete the regular combo.
For example, try your best to not use the sheild/kick to sword strike follow up, it only slows you down.
Instead of that move, you can do the horizontal combo (maybe if you're using CC you press A button to use it if you don't hold a direction on the analog stick) and follow up with the revolving slice.

You can also try and use the jumping slash since it makes you withstand attacks made by fellow hunters.

Make sure you evade often too, and evade right after your revolving slice to continue your combo really quickly.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:30 pm

That is basically what she does I have seen her use sns she is rather proficient at it.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:08 pm

All i want is a discussion and i keep getting rudely rerouted to the "correct" places to talk about this. Im new here but im gonna make it known first and foremost that im not going to take any individuals snide comments so if you dont have anything constructive to say please hop off. i enjoy discussing how people use their weapons differently and what thought processes they use when fighting. So i guess guide section wouldnt really encompass what im trying to get out of people.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:13 pm

i believe discussions belong here more than the guide section too
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:40 pm

Tiffy Taffy wrote:
All i want is a discussion and i keep getting rudely rerouted to the "correct" places to talk about this. Im new here but im gonna make it known first and foremost that im not going to take any individuals snide comments so if you dont have anything constructive to say please hop off. i enjoy discussing how people use their weapons differently and what thought processes they use when fighting. So i guess guide section wouldnt really encompass what im trying to get out of people.
Man, your boldness is scaring me XD
But I used to SnS also
Really I just blocked when I knew I couldn't evade and stuck to the legs, if I made the monster trip then more damage for everyone! I would evade whenever an attack was incoming and don't stop attacking. I normally would end my attack with the - button, then either dodge or if in optimal position do the non-jump attack. I never really shield bashed unless it was on kelbi, so I tried to stick to it's weak spot and keep attacking, whenever I did SnS I always paralyze the monster...
Ive learned that it is helpful to know which weapon = which monsters, so right now I'm learning the bowgun.
For example:
Barioth = SnS because of high speed
That's all I got... XD
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:19 pm

I find when I use SnS, I like to use the DPS advantage on a stat wep like dahaka.
Also I like to take advantage of the fact you can use items with it out...so it can be quite supportive if you give it wide range +2...
Currently working on a set like that that gives: Status attack up, razor sharp, Wide Range+2, Speedsetup and Evade+1 (can swap wide range for speed sharpening).
Besides that I evade out of short attacks like a diablos charge or gaan roll/chinpound and block things that I cant evade from like barioth's tornado.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:38 pm

i usually use sns for elements, sometimes for statuses.
i just attack, sheath, dodge, because the sns is a very mobile weapon
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:41 pm

@Lagia818 wrote:
i usually use sns for elements, sometimes for statuses.
i just attack, sheath, dodge, because the sns is a very mobile weapon
Sheath?

I'M GUNNA CRITICIZE YOU!
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:57 pm

The SnS is by far the most situational weapon in that your tactics are highly based on the monster and your partners.

For example, a hammer always has to aim for the head - because it's able to. A hammer can reach any monster's head and hits it hard. But if we're talking about the SnS, we stumble on a few variables.

The SnS is quite useful on Agnaktor because a) you can attack the tail b) you can get "stuck" behind the legs and do the optimal combo It's meh has already talked about and repeat in record speed and top notch efficience. You can participate in every break and more often than not you'll be able to do so.

On Jho, it's a different story completely. You'll only hit its legs, so perhaps it's for the best if you use a status SnS? You may want to make it trip over, but an LS will do it faster and make YOU trip over in the process.

Anyway, there *are* some useful general tactics.

a) Evade whenever you can. The best possible direction is towards the sides of the monster, so that it'll have to turn around to face you. But I suppose this works for every weapon?
b) Do your best to keep close to the monster. It's not always possible, but then you shouldn't sheathe your weapon. Ok, you CAN do that if it's too far away, but, otherwise, don't.
c) Learn about the hitzones.
d) Bring traps and bombs and whatnot. You can use them with your weapon unsheathed, so it's almost your obligation to use items such as these. SnS is great for support.
e) Avoid Blunt Edge at all costs.
f) Use the right element.
g) If there isn't a hammer in the team and you have already done your part, you may even try using the shield. You might even KO the monster.
h) It's also not shameful to use the shield for, you know, shielding. It's better than taking full damage.
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 pm

THERES a good reply Lol, thanks alot. I use alot of these tactics already like Jojo said but its good to see actual insight starting to poke through the cracks, thanks again
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:22 pm

Some difficulties that present themselves are friendly fire when using SnS. for this reason I cant stand questing with Noobs who claim to be longsword experts; theyre just all over the place, tripping me consecutively. Another issue i have is that its frustrating trying to get Los or Ians tails with SnS. (Hardebosch)

When im fighting jho with takemikazutchi (i think thats how its spelled) I can reach the head, if there are no hammers, and break its chin-beard thing. My favorite monster to use SnS on is Peco, just because its so funny to murk Quru without missing a beat and kill him, solo, in like 3 and a half minutes. Lol ;)
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PostSubject: Re: SnSer's Tactics Discussion   Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:30 pm

Tiffy Taffy wrote:
Some difficulties that present themselves are friendly fire when using SnS. for this reason I cant stand questing with Noobs who claim to be longsword experts; theyre just all over the place, tripping me consecutively. Another issue i have is that its frustrating trying to get Los or Ians tails with SnS. (Hardebosch)

When im fighting jho with takemikazutchi (i think thats how its spelled) I can reach the head, if there are no hammers, and break its chin-beard thing. My favorite monster to use SnS on is Peco, just because its so funny to murk Quru without missing a beat and kill him, solo, in like 3 and a half minutes. Lol ;)
Well, to assist with being tripped around, you can easily do the jumping slice before initiating a combo. You'll be able to do most of the combo (Minus the revolving slice) without being tripped over.

Combined with evasion skills you'll also be able to evade through allied slashes and be able to begin a combo by doing another jumping slice.... It's pretty much why I like evade distance up against smaller monsters XD
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