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Griphter195
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PostSubject: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:24 pm

This is about where Randies get their info from, like lance charge is good, upswing is more powerful than superpound ect.

I'll start I went looking for the lance contorls and saw this guide: http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/943655-monster-hunter-tri/faqs/60132
And I quote; I want to make a note about the dash attack while I'm on the topic of status.
The dash attack can used to close distance between a monster and you, but it
also has many other uses. The dash does a quarter of the normal damage dealt
from normal thrusts, but does half the normal status damage compared to
normal thrusts. This makes the dash attack a valuable source of inflicting
status quickly on a monster. Dashing is also very useful on a limping monster.
You can easily inflict enough damage to make it stagger and allow some free
hits from your allies.



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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:44 pm

Well the problem isnt the attack with randoms, its the way they use it...
Like the lance charge, it CAN be useful...but majority of the time they spam it and knock around team members.
As for the hammer upswing, bad timing maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:49 pm

I don't disagree on what has been quoted, even though I had a hard time trying to read it due to the red font.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:13 pm

I hate it when people lance charge me, now I can go kill that guy for telling them to lance charge
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:26 pm

Is that better Palas?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:45 pm

Quote :
but does half the normal status damage compared to
normal thrusts
wut? no. Each status hit is the same. Always. Why would it do half for one attack?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:58 pm

@Stuff wrote:
Quote :
but does half the normal status damage compared to
normal thrusts
wut? no. Each status hit is the same. Always. Why would it do half for one attack?
It is?
It isn't reduced during the lance charge?
o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:08 pm

Higher status damage just means you activate it more often?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:12 pm

...da fuq?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:24 am

Don't ever lance charge!
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:15 pm

@MidnightManiac wrote:
Don't ever lance charge!
When I lance, I don't lance I just charge, everyday, all day.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:27 pm

@Stuff wrote:
Quote :
but does half the normal status damage compared to
normal thrusts
wut? no. Each status hit is the same. Always. Why would it do half for one attack?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii/943655-monster-hunter-tri/faqs/59207

see section 2b:
Quote :

| Note 2: Forward Charge attack has a .25 multiplier for element, |
| Forward Charge attack has a .50 multiplier on status.

the hits come fast so a full hit during a charge would make status lance dash overpowering.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:24 am

Yeah I just checked with MID. I used nega-babylon(it has huge paralyze) and an infinite pitfall. Lance charge definitely does half status damage per hit. That's where I stop caring. I'll believe element is .25 without question.

The reason I don't care much about the faqs, is because sometime they're wrong in the worst way possible. Like the gun ammo data. One day I'll find it in memory and make a nice table for the real gun ammo data. Hopefully without "sometimes multipliers". >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:33 pm

I find it irritating when they use pellet shots without seeing if I/other teammates are the in way. I'd say lance charge can be useful sometimes although, I only use it as a way to move faster xD. Off Topic somewhat: I hate it when there is someone who CANNOT use Flash bombs to save them selves and freaking blind me. (:
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:14 pm

Can you lance charge Ceadeus to repel it? Like with Spiral Heat or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:28 pm

As has been said, lance charge does low damage, and fairly good status/elemental damage. So it's okay to use if you want to inflict status a lot (there are better options), but not for dealing raw damage. As far as ceadeus goes, he can't be inflicted with status, making the lance charge subpar for dealing damage (the biggest problem is usually the drain on your weapon's sharpness).

Now, as ceadeus is fought entirely underwater, you'll use the charge a lot for moving faster. This will allow you to get a few hits in when you've broken his beard, and most of these will be on his tail (a pain to go for otherwise). So yes, you can use the lance charge for moving faster, but do not use it when you could be using stab combos.


Note: This is kind of an old thread, and you could have asked it in the question hotline.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:05 pm

Lagiacrus armor and Spiral Heat for high element damage and low impact on the sharpness? So charge and then stab until you're near the tail then charge back to the head? Alrighty.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:10 pm

Well, with sidehopping, you should just stick on him untill his beard breaks. At that point, just try and get in a few hits with the charge, not like you'll be able to catch up with him.

If you're lancing, lagi armour isn't that important though (olympic swimmer doesn't matter much if you can lance charge). So you'll probably be better off with rathalos or something else that boosts damage. Element attack up is nice, but is almost always outclassed.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:26 pm

So I should use my Rathalos set with Crit Eye +3 instead?
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:15 pm

@Crystalis wrote:
So I should use my Rathalos set with Crit Eye +3 instead?
You are lancing, right?

Try out dorris spear (Yellow) instead.
Unless you wanna keep the lagi lance un-upgraded so you can get the luminous organ or upgrade to high lagi lance.
:>


You'll do the same amount of raw, but the dorris spear will get more damage in with its element type.
Lance poke that tail :D

Oh. and you could also try lagi armor and gem it up to get attack up M :>
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:37 pm

I'm lancing because I find it easier to fight Ceadeus with a lance rather than a longsword. Personally, I still find myself failing to hit the Dragonator or sucessfully bomb his horns, which is likely the reason I keep failing the mission in the first place. I'm trying to do that without needing the Dragonator.

The water itself isn't the problem, I can destroy a Lagiacrus with my Dancing Flames.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:40 am


well, no surprise... gamefaqs is a noobs-factory.
if someone knows already how to play he doesn't need to go check gamefaqs.
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PostSubject: Re: Where they get it from.   Sat May 19, 2012 7:55 pm

@Andrea88GOD wrote:

well, no surprise... gamefaqs is a noobs-factory.
if someone knows already how to play he doesn't need to go check gamefaqs.
I only went on there to check out about what I should do because this was my first time with a lance and had read how they pissed you guys off so I didn't want to make mistakes
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