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PostSubject: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:19 pm

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So Capcom has now started a new game (game series) much like Monster Hunter but with a lot more "Wester" influence to it. Dragon's Dogma which will be released world wide in May for PS3 and Xbox360 will feature many elements we have seen in the MH series and some we have seen portrayed to be in the upcoming MH4 game on the 3DS such as "grab" action.

One of the main differences in DD over MH however is that (though listed as single player) you can recruit NPC's to fight along with you on tougher fights. Also in DD there will be classes instead of just weapon types to chose from.

In the past Capcom has stated that the MH series is (too Japanese) for the west and has given that as a reason for the lack of MH releases outside Japan. Though this is the first DD game they seem to not be taking that same approch as the game is releasing world wide around the same dates without months of waiting in between.

So my question and concern is this: Do you all think that "Dragon's Dogma" could be Capcoms replacement/answer for the Monster Hunter series outside Japan?

What are your thoughts iether way?
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:52 am

Well next week, we'll finally be able to see if this can sate our Monster Hunting hunger. There'll be a demo out on the 24th for both Xbox and Playstation.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:03 am

^ Though I am sure many people will be happy with this game, it still does not make up for the way Capcom did MH in the west in my opinion.



I want monster hunter not another game like it made to appease us and keep us from ever having MH at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:02 pm

I have a feeling this won't work for Capcom, since they're..... not really ones to learn from mistakes. Most Monster Hunter games had lousy advertising in the West, thus they didn't sell good. MHTri sold great because of the kickass advertising campaign. I have a feeling they'll neglect advertising with Dragon's Dogma just like they did with the other Monster Hunter titles.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Nintendo advertised Tri, not Capcom. DD is not on Nintendo. Hmmm, what does that mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:03 pm

Yes, I know Nintendo was behind Tri's advertising, thus why it sold so well. But assuming Capcom learned nothing about the importance of advertising a game outside of the home country (which seems likely) Dragon's Dogma would be a commercial failure. I'm also kind of viewing this as Capcom just trying to find a way for us to wave the white flag and give up on MH over here.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:40 pm

Max tells me to get hyped for something, I get hyped.

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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:31 pm

So according to Capcom:

Western Style RPG=Skyrim.

I say this because that is honestly what it looks like. It doesn't look like it was made with any of the originality that went into monster hunter in mind. It just looks like they looked in the west, saw that Skyrim was a cash cow, and decided they would make, well, Skyrim. I'm also seeing something here that really bugs me. Monster Hunter usually sticks to the basic formula of what a dragon is in the games. There'll be some welcome and cool variations, like Tigrex, or Nargacuga. They'll also branch out and use dinosaurs, etc. But this is all just generic monsters. Ogres, giant, multi-headed snakes, gryphons, and at the start we see a very generic dragon. It's not original, it's just boring.

If that's the direction Capcom is going with the west (sending us poor man's versions of their games mixed with poor man's version of other people's games) than screw it, I'm playing Hunter Blade and Freedom Unite, and P3rd, and Tri until the bones in my fingers whither away to dust.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:56 am

I'm not sure that's the case. It's just horrid timing on the developers part. Apparently, this game has been in development since 2008, and that one of the developers, Hideaki Itsuno, has been thinking about it since he was a kid. So is it a rip-off? No, it just looks like one.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:03 am

Overall it's quite different from MH. The problem is not the similarities it does share with MH but the way Capcom is handling DD over its MH fan base IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:20 pm



Obey Max... Must buy...
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:22 pm

So the games so horrible it broke your link?

And please try to remember this post isn't about Dragons Dogma, it's still a monster hunter topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:35 pm

Wut? The video is right there.

Also, this thread is more Dragon's Dogma than Monster Hunter. We've been debating weather or not This is going to replace MH in the West, not weather or not Monster hunter will fade in the West due to this game.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:41 pm

And I am reminding everyone it needs to focus more on MH.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:57 am

Well then should I make a Dragon's Dogma thread?
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:01 am

That might be best. In the non MH (I am a blasphemous traitor) section.

I still think too many are forgetting the simalaraties between they showed off in the MH4 footage.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:09 am

Are you saying DD ripped that off? Remember, like I said before, this game has been in development since around the same time Monster Hunter Tri. Or not even then, since the Director has wanted this game made since he was a kid.

Anyway, MH4/Q (Whatever they call it) ripped off SotC.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:00 am

I think you're misunderstanding. Maybe you should go back and read the original post.

It's about Capcom replacing MH in the west all together. If they make MH4 more like another game isn't that proving the point? Especially if they end up releasing it in the west where they didn't release 3G.

Capcom decides to release DD and then a very similar MH game to (mh4) over the more traditional mh type game 3G.

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PostSubject: Re: Dragon's Dogma over MH in the west?   Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:38 pm

I say we all throw a big hissy fit and not buy or encourage the game to sell.

That'll teach Capcom!









Or we could just keep asking for Monster Hunter. Fervently.
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