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PostSubject: How MHU Changes things....   Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:24 pm

So Yea... Monster Hunter Ultimate is basically Monster Hunter 3G HD on the WiiU and Monster Hunter G for the 3DS... but lets take a quick look at what this means for those of us here in the west, the Monster Hunter series, and for other gaming Consoles.

Lets start with the obvious. First off ok, it's not MH4 with a whole lot of inovations but it is an MH game that is being released basically here in the west within the first 6 months of a home consoles life and around the same time as it's getting released in Japan (or within just a few months) without the years of waiting. In fact I think this is the first time an MH game has ever gotten announced and confirmed for a western released at the same time it was announced at all.

As far as the 3DS version, thoug it will not have online it will have cross platform play and local wireless play with other 3DS' and WiiU systems as well as you being able to transfer you game information back and forth from the 3DS to the WiiU and vice versa... So basically you will be playing the same game where ever you are. This is not a bad thing as some of the DLC quests can be done on the 3DS in solo play (if it's the same as 3G) actually offering quite an advantage. Also having the 3DS will also allow you to get streetpass/spotpass and special Nintendo Zone Quests that you can't get on the WiiU and will open up special weapons and armors that you cant get by just playing the WiiU version alone. Same with the WiiU online mode I am sure.

Lets also look at it from several marketing standpoints... We saw how well 3G sold in Japan and the anticipation MH4 has there... The WiiU Having MHU on it and the 3DS with MHU here in the west may also bring quite a bit of hype especially if the MH movie talked about earlier this week gets underway by it's release date if by some chance is released by March/April.

Now, exposure.. In the last few weeks/months Monster Hunter has been talked about more here in the west than it has in a long time. With the announcement of MHU and the possible Movie and even capcoms promise to actually keep us informed of the series from now on, is this the start of us actually seeing a big push by Capcom on getting the Monster hunter Series as popular here in the west as it is in Japan.

Something else to think about... Now that we know about Monster Hunter Unlimited for the WiiU and 3DS does all the silence on MH3G here in the west now make sense?

And lastly..... How does this announcement impact Sony and Microsoft? The impact here in the west may not be imediately noticable but in Japan I think it will be seen rather quickly. The WiiU is priced rather well for all it comes with and offers compared to other systems and without the need to pay an additional monthly fee for online play (if it is good) it may attract many people. And lets face it in Japan Monster Hunter is the deciding Factor in a lot of things. The WiiU is getting MH at launch basically.... It will sale. Here in the west we are getting MH shortly after with it on two basically new nintendo devices that interact together.... Tri's biggest feature was the Online, hands down. If MHU takes the online even further and offers even more content to keep people playing more than the thousands of hours many did on tri.... Well, by the time other companies release their systems the WiiU will have a major head start thanks to Monster Hunter Ultimate...

Just a thought...


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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:40 pm

Omigod when I saw this on wiiudaily, I literally leapt with excitement.
I seriously was NOT expecting a new Monster Hunter, even it if is just a variation of 3g.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:43 pm

@Ultimate Jaggi wrote:
Omigod when I saw this on wiiudaily, I literally leapt with excitement.
I seriously was NOT expecting a new Monster Hunter, even it if is just a variation of 3g.
I expected an HD release... But I didn't think it would just pop up for a western release as well. o.o
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:46 pm

Words wont do enough to describe how happy I was with this announcement when I got up this morning. I'm not sure who to credit more for this brilliant move, Nintendo or Capcom. From a purely Western standpoint, launching Ultimate so close to the launch of the Wii U is extremely good for the series' exposure. During the first few months of a console's life, quality games are few and far between. Monster Hunter will definitely be a standout to people who are looking for something to play that isn't just a port or party game and this could mean thousands of new fans. I believe the only thing that really held Tri from really taking off was the fact that it was bound to a home console. Handhelds have more exposure from ease of access to word of mouth (like when someone sees you playing).

The two platform approach makes me really happy because I know it'll fluff the numbers quite well. This will definitely be the game that changes things up for us. I'd still expect MH4 to lag behind a bit but I've got a good feeling I'll be able to let myself get excited for this one and not feel burned.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:56 am

Everything I've seen points to it just being MH3G. As it's been called "Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate". Seeing as "G" wouldn't make sense to Americans.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:13 am

Very great news to hear i honestly thought that we wouldnt have a Monster hunter for a long time. Now the forum will have a new Monster hunter game to play.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:38 am

It's sad to see that so many left so soon right before this announcement.. but.. Their loss.

Anyways.. BAck on topic..

I was at Game Stop yesterday and a few people there were upset...

A lot of stores really push Sony... It's a fact but lets face it yesterdays announcement (even without MH being as big in the west as a lot of people want to believe) will really push the series and both the 3DS and WiiU this holiday.

According to them they got a big flood of people pre-ordering the WiiU and over half were asking about Monster Hunter U as well on both systems...

They all know about me and monster hunter so it was really nice to actually talk about it. I told them about tri and that though the servers may not be up too much longer it would be a good game to suggest to some of the people calling and gave out the forums address for additional information...

You know.. anything to promote the forum!!!
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:51 am

I really hope the same stuff that happened with wii's distribution does not happen with wii u. They better have enough systems to ship when the day comes...
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:06 pm

I agree but from what I am hearing.. Acording to Game Stop employees (only 10 Units per store unless the pre-orders exceed that)...

It all goes back to a suply and demand thing I am sure. Also, Looking at the 2 systems being offered, the $349.99 system seems like a great deal to me for all it offeres but the $299.99 one... Seems intentionally, well over priced.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:30 pm

I think I might just buy the 3DS and/or the Wii U just for the sake of MHU.
On the other hand, too many consoles? Probably.

Also, Monster Hunter movie? What? Link? Pretty please?
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:46 pm

^ There is a post about it in the general section.


Also to add..


The marketing stratagy in having 2 MH games aon two compatable (And fairly new) systems is pretty smart. If like mentioned before there are slight difference in what event quest/items and such can be acheived on the two seperate versions than it would essentially entice people to not only get both versions of the game but increase dramatically the numbers in game and hardware sales because of it....

In the end, a pretty smart move. Fans are happy to have not just one but 2 MH games here in the west and are bassically getting both a console and a handheld version, each having a few different elements to keep both original but both nintendo and Capcom are benifiting from sales in a pretty big way....
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:57 pm

I'm pretty sure gamestop stopped preorders TODAY.
Something about not enough consoles o_o

Btw this is for the deluxe version. The basic version is fine, :p
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:03 am

^ game stop, bestbuy, Walmart, and target all seem fine on preorders when i talked to them a few minites ago and looked online. Did you call them or hear that information from someone else?
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:47 am

It's great news but it has me wondering a question that I am almost afraid to ask. How does Capcom run the servers? With MHTri being older and MHUltimate coming out next year, is there any fear of the MHTri servers being shut down? I would be all for getting a WiiU and a 3DS I have wanted a 3DS for awhile and a new MH being a possibility just makes me want to get one all the more. Issue being of course money I can't afford either right now. When I can I will go ahead get the next gen systems. For now though it just makes me wonder what of the MHTri servers
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:02 am

The announcement in itself will inspire some fans to play MH3 on their Wiis. And even though MH3U sounds like a launch title in Japan (I could be wrong, but I know they're getting a bundle), I doubt they'll close their servers then and there.

You have AT LEAST until March before they close em. At least that's what I'm guessing. It's a reasonable and smart decision to keep at least some servers still open. Not that Capcom always does the smart thing.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:16 am

Capcom USA employees have stated in the recent past that Tri servers were still up because we didn't have any other MH games here in the west and that the Tri servers were expensive to maintain.

So based on that there will probably be little if any overlap in the timeframe of the Tri servers being shutdown and the MHU servers being activated for beta.

And I would say that they will have all the MHU servers ready to go at launch.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:04 pm

@dcj91x wrote:
^ game stop, bestbuy, Walmart, and target all seem fine on preorders when i talked to them a few minites ago and looked online. Did you call them or hear that information from someone else?

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/09/wii-u-sold-out-at-retailers/
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:46 pm

Just went by a few places and yup... They are now no longer taking pre-orders. But from talking to a few people seems like Game Stop had the most allocated WiiU units per store.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:41 am

Yea I would rather just wait & see if theres some special edition thing they piece together than preorder a console now. Up here i can afford to buy the console & game the day it comes out & know there'll be plenty in store, so the wait to see if a special edition bracchidos DS would be worth it :D
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:37 pm

I will miss the online Tri and Loc Lac city...
And still don't have enough money to get 3U on the 3DS or a WiiU when it launches... damn money issues.
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:39 pm

That city... so many memories u_u

I dont have money either, its time to reopen my legendary brownie store
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:50 pm

ah yes, no more loc lac. no more jho ( boo ) or alatreons ( YEAAAAAA!!! ), no more 3-4 days of jhen-noob cities., no more yelling & making hate-threads over the opulent hunter, no more haik...

NO MORE HAIKU'S FROM THE LIL' ASIAN WYVERNIAN THING!!!! X.X

-Le Gasp- this is the worst thing ever to happen >_<"
-Jumps thru a window-
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:53 pm

@Otoshimo wrote:
ah yes, no more loc lac. no more jho ( boo ) or alatreons ( YEAAAAAA!!! ), no more 3-4 days of jhen-noob cities., no more yelling & making hate-threads over the opulent hunter, no more haik...

NO MORE HAIKU'S FROM THE LIL' ASIAN WYVERNIAN THING!!!! X.X

-Le Gasp- this is the worst thing ever to happen >_<"
-Jumps thru a window-

hehe... dont worry for the newbs warping to you, you will have plenty of that on MHU
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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:08 pm

yea pretty much sarcasm for everything i mentioned in that post. EXCEPT THE HAIKU'S, THAT IM REALLY GOING TO MISS....

*ahem* -salutes-

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PostSubject: Re: How MHU Changes things....   Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:18 pm

No more Jho? We now get jho and "angry Jho"...

Anyways.... I think a lot of the "upset" comments that peoria have now will change a bit once they actually play the WiiU and once we all see how MHU is and works with both systems.

A lot of people complained about the 3DS before released and now those who have actually played it and given it a chance really enjoy it especially those who doubted an MH game on it and have had a chance to play 3G already.

I think the same way will be with MHU. I don't know how the game will be but what I have played of the WiiU in my hands on time with it I can say it is a bit better than I thought and I had my doubts. There are a few things that could have been improved (but that can be said for every game system) overall however I am excited about how well it could actually work with Monster Hunter.
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