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PostSubject: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 3:13 pm

Hi guys! I've recently picked up the dual swords. I think they're quite fun and i realise that they reach their max damage output when you use elemental DS. But today, I have a few questions.

1) IN YOUR OPINIONS!!!! Which are the best DS of each element so I know what to work for.

2) is the Slime DS any good when i get this character up to Brachy.

Thanks for reading and in advance for all your help - Integra.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 4:14 pm

Plesioth Cutlass path for water, Blizzaroth path for ice, Zin->Nether path for thunder, Aggy path for fire until you can farm for Miralis'.

Dragon is a stickier issue. 3 paths (Bug, Jho, Ancient Shard) and 3 different sets of positives and negatives. Insecticutter path is accessible early, easy to make/upgrade and balanced raw/ele (322/200 at max). Ancient path is low raw/high ele (182/480 at max) and relies on actually GETTING them from a shard. Jho's path is the opposite (364/160 + 10% affinity at max) and is the the only path of the bunch that can attain purple sharpness (w/ Sharpness+1) at max, the others topping out at white. Personally, I used the bug DS until I could make Jho's but YYMV.

The Brachy DS are great, IMO. Especially useful if any particular element in your arsenal is lacking.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 4:26 pm

My favorite ds is by far the stygian zinogre line, which gives thunder and dragon element.

However the pure zinogre line is the best thunder DS.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 7:00 pm

Wow, thanks guys. This has definitely helped me a lot! Yes by vort

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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 9:21 pm

this is great info for me aswell as ive though of doing the same, and not to hijack your thread Integra but is this basically the same for SnS aswell?
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 10:10 pm

@Ultimate Jaggi wrote:
My favorite ds is by far the stygian zinogre line, which gives thunder and dragon element.

However the pure zinogre line is the best thunder DS.
Funny how that ds is absolute garbage.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Sun May 05, 2013 10:15 pm

The entire dragon dual sword line is garbage if you really think about it most sacrifice sharpness and only reach white sharpness the two that do reach purple sharpness are not that good either in stygian superbia and the nero line.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Mon May 06, 2013 4:16 am

@Jodecho wrote:
this is great info for me aswell as ive though of doing the same, and not to hijack your thread Integra but is this basically the same for SnS aswell?

Hi Jodecho! With a sword and shield I believe you play more of a support role so you need to be dishing out as much element (or status if that's what you're into) as you can. I f
think that raw sns are a waste of time. I also think that sns are just like a ds with less damage and shield so I'm pretty sure ds advice carries over for this weapon too. But again I never was a sns user so I'm someone on this forum can give a better answer than me but I hope this helps - Integra.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Mon May 06, 2013 9:33 am

@haruno wrote:
@Ultimate Jaggi wrote:
My favorite ds is by far the stygian zinogre line, which gives thunder and dragon element.

However the pure zinogre line is the best thunder DS.
Funny how that ds is absolute garbage.

I mean you say People should not waste Mats on this DS , but why so "negative" ?


@Topic: Im not indepht in DS but 9 of 10 DS palyers have slime DS ,so u should craft it.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Tue May 07, 2013 1:36 pm

^Nine out of ten people used Guan Dao in Tri, but it still wasn't very good. OP, in general it's better to spend mats on DS which are more powerful in one element than on DS which have two Ok elements. You'll get more damage out of it, and in general you can do better in multi-monster quests by using raw or status. Dual element DS certainly get style points though! :D
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Tue May 07, 2013 2:36 pm

Dual swords elements work like this in unite. They're split into two herpderp. If say Stygian duals had both 370 dragon AND 250 lightning on both blade then it would be good but sadly that's not the case. Only one dual has dragon while the other has thunder. Monsters are primarily weak to one element so even on something like jho/caedeus you're better off using a pure dragon/thunder duals respectively. Also white > purple/blue sharpness on duals so stygians purple sharpness is more of a liability than a help if you know how to use duals.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Tue May 07, 2013 10:39 pm

@haruno wrote:
Dual swords elements work like this in unite. They're split into two herpderp. If say Stygian duals had both 370 dragon AND 250 lightning on both blade then it would be good but sadly that's not the case. Only one dual has dragon while the other has thunder. Monsters are primarily weak to one element so even on something like jho/caedeus you're better off using a pure dragon/thunder duals respectively. Also white > purple/blue sharpness on duals so stygians purple sharpness is more of a liability than a help if you know how to use duals.

I never said it was any good, i was merely saying that it was my favorite. Nothing more, nothing less.

And by the time you can make this DS, you probably have decent thunder and dragon weapons anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Wed May 08, 2013 8:12 am

SLIME!HAHAHAHA!!!THE BEST ELEMENT EVER!!!1YESSSSSSS
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Wed May 08, 2013 12:06 pm

@haruno wrote:
Dual swords elements work like this in unite. They're split into two herpderp. If say Stygian duals had both 370 dragon AND 250 lightning on both blade then it would be good but sadly that's not the case. Only one dual has dragon while the other has thunder. Monsters are primarily weak to one element so even on something like jho/caedeus you're better off using a pure dragon/thunder duals respectively. Also white > purple/blue sharpness on duals so stygians purple sharpness is more of a liability than a help if you know how to use duals.

you failed the part where monsters usually have 2-3 weaknesses but 1 element stands in particular out doing the most extra damage. there's like 10 monsters that share a a dragon/lightning super-effectiveness that could call to use stygian and it be ok. also the part where you say that white sharpness is greater than puruple sharpness, the sharpness having the highest attack amplifier possible and deflection prevention... -_-"

besides the notion of status weps being the best was the best comment here. those plegion stunswords are just so damn smexy
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Wed May 08, 2013 12:11 pm

@Otoshimo wrote:
you failed the part where monsters usually have 2-3 weaknesses but 1 element stands in particular out doing the most extra damage. there's like 10 monsters that share a a dragon/lightning super-effectiveness that could call to use stygian and it be ok. also the part where you say that white sharpness is greater than puruple sharpness, the sharpness having the highest attack amplifier possible and deflection prevention... -_-"

besides the notion of status weps being the best was the best comment here. those plegion stunswords are just so damn smexy

The bolded part is due to the White Sharpness is better on Duals as you're dealing a decent amount of damage, but you're not getting any 'hitlag' meaning you can deal more damage with white sharp instead of purple sharp when demon dancing and such, I'm sure that is what Haruno means when he said that, having it all about DPS.
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Wed May 08, 2013 1:49 pm

@Otoshimo wrote:
@haruno wrote:
Dual swords elements work like this in unite. They're split into two herpderp. If say Stygian duals had both 370 dragon AND 250 lightning on both blade then it would be good but sadly that's not the case. Only one dual has dragon while the other has thunder. Monsters are primarily weak to one element so even on something like jho/caedeus you're better off using a pure dragon/thunder duals respectively. Also white > purple/blue sharpness on duals so stygians purple sharpness is more of a liability than a help if you know how to use duals.

you failed the part where monsters usually have 2-3 weaknesses but 1 element stands in particular out doing the most extra damage. there's like 10 monsters that share a a dragon/lightning super-effectiveness that could call to use stygian and it be ok. also the part where you say that white sharpness is greater than puruple sharpness, the sharpness having the highest attack amplifier possible and deflection prevention... -_-"

besides the notion of status weps being the best was the best comment here. those plegion stunswords are just so damn smexy
But why use two elements where one does better than the other when you could just use dual swords with a higher value in the one better element?
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PostSubject: Re: Elemental Dual Swords   Wed May 08, 2013 2:06 pm

@Armoured Barioth wrote:
@Otoshimo wrote:
@haruno wrote:
Dual swords elements work like this in unite. They're split into two herpderp. If say Stygian duals had both 370 dragon AND 250 lightning on both blade then it would be good but sadly that's not the case. Only one dual has dragon while the other has thunder. Monsters are primarily weak to one element so even on something like jho/caedeus you're better off using a pure dragon/thunder duals respectively. Also white > purple/blue sharpness on duals so stygians purple sharpness is more of a liability than a help if you know how to use duals.

you failed the part where monsters usually have 2-3 weaknesses but 1 element stands in particular out doing the most extra damage. there's like 10 monsters that share a a dragon/lightning super-effectiveness that could call to use stygian and it be ok. also the part where you say that white sharpness is greater than puruple sharpness, the sharpness having the highest attack amplifier possible and deflection prevention... -_-"

besides the notion of status weps being the best was the best comment here. those plegion stunswords are just so damn smexy
But why use two elements where one does better than the other when you could just use dual swords with a higher value in the one better element?

because you don't, poison/para/sleep/slime that squid all the way!!!
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