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PostSubject: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:31 am

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I bought a lance, tried it out, kept getting killed.. I need that tumble abilty,.. went back to the villiage and immediately sold that thing back to the blacksmith, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:30 pm

@Axel3 wrote:
@It's meh wrote:
@Axel3 wrote:
@It's meh wrote:

It's boring, until.... DIABLOS CHARGE OMGWTF
Your funny HAR HAR HAR
but then I'll just stand there and block with my bowgun shield
Then another bowgun user used pellet shot from behind you.
Then jho uses his dragon breath on blos making him flinch
And jho was right next to you, and his breath evaporated you.
Dragon Dragon Dragon
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:31 pm

@It's meh wrote:
@Axel3 wrote:
@It's meh wrote:
@Axel3 wrote:

Your funny HAR HAR HAR
but then I'll just stand there and block with my bowgun shield
Then another bowgun user used pellet shot from behind you.
Then jho uses his dragon breath on blos making him flinch
And jho was right next to you, and his breath evaporated you.
Dragon Dragon Dragon
But I had evasion +2 and I rolled through, it then I shot it's meh into the breath thus he dies
I WIN
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:03 pm

My least favourite has to be the bowgun. I hate bowguns. The aiming system is rubbish. Why can't you aim by pointing the wiimote? That's why it has a cursor! Also, what's with this stupd customisation? It's pointlessly complicated and means you get one weapon for the price of three with worse armour!
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:27 pm

@Spiritlord wrote:
My least favourite has to be the bowgun. I hate bowguns.
I'm not too fond of them either, but you might want a different reason as to why.
@Spiritlord wrote:
The aiming system is rubbish.
The cursor could move a little faster (or they could allow for some sort of sensitivity setting or something), but I'm pretty content with how they have it.
@Spiritlord wrote:
Why can't you aim by pointing the wiimote? That's why it has a cursor!

The movement is a little too fluid, it's easier to pick the exact part of the monster you want to hit with the current style. The best aiming option would be mouse+keyboard, but we don't have that :P
@Spiritlord wrote:
Also, what's with this stupd customisation?

It's what makes it the strongest/most versatile weapon in the game.
@Spiritlord wrote:
It's pointlessly complicated and means you get one weapon for the price of three

It allows for it to do just about anything you want it to. And each part is fairly cheap. Let's compare making the entire Chaos Wing (Alatreon Bowgun) to making any Alatreon weapon.

Each piece of Chaos Wing costs 14,200z, so multiply that by 3.

3(14200)=42600z

By upgrading the frame you're adding 11,360z to the cost of the weapon which pulls it up to a grand total of 53,960z.

Crafting an Alatreon weapon costs 77,777z and the upgrade costs 100,000z. Chaos Wing costs less then one third of an Alatreon weapon, and it's going to take assloads of ammo in order to make up for the 100,000z+ difference (although you will end up spending more in the long long long run). IIRC this is the most expensive bowgun, but I'm really just going off memory right now since I cba to look up the actual numbers.


@Spiritlord wrote:
with worse armour!
You shouldn't really be getting hit with physical attacks if you're using a gun. If you do screw up you'll get hurt though.


___

@Axel3 wrote:
@It's meh wrote:
@Axel3 wrote:
@It's meh wrote:

Then another bowgun user used pellet shot from behind you.
Then jho uses his dragon breath on blos making him flinch
And jho was right next to you, and his breath evaporated you.
Dragon Dragon Dragon
But I had evasion +2 and I rolled through, it then I shot it's meh into the breath thus he dies
I WIN

But you're still getting flinched from the pellet s though.

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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:52 pm

@Spiritlord wrote:
My least favourite has to be the bowgun. I hate bowguns. The aiming system is rubbish. Why can't you aim by pointing the wiimote? That's why it has a cursor! Also, what's with this stupd customisation? It's pointlessly complicated and means you get one weapon for the price of three with worse armour!

Ugh dont bash the weapon, bash the users who use them wrong and refuse to
improve >.>
You have only just reached high rank, when gunners are at their most useful.
The aiming system can be solved with practice (like alot of things). The customisation allows for a gun to specialise in an ammo type of your choice.
After all, the guns greatest strength is that of veriety in both customistaion and ammo types.
The armor has weaker defence because at a distance, you shouldnt get hit very often anyways.
You should try hunting with experienced gunners, they can make alot of difference...
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:30 pm

@Shiny_Rayquaza wrote:
@Spiritlord wrote:
My least favourite has to be the bowgun. I hate bowguns.
I'm not too fond of them either, but you might want a different reason as to why.

Why another reason? That's why I don't like them, so that is the reason. I could probably complain about them all day, but I'd rather not.

@Shiny_Rayquaza wrote:
@Spiritlord wrote:
The aiming system is rubbish.
The cursor could move a little faster (or they could allow for some sort of sensitivity setting or something), but I'm pretty content with how they have it.

That's not my problem with the aiming. I find the sensitivity is ok, but I wish it would stay aimed at the same place when you move. Although the D-pad does annoy me more than a little.

@Shiny_Rayquaza wrote:
@Spiritlord wrote:
Why can't you aim by pointing the wiimote? That's why it has a cursor!

The movement is a little too fluid, it's easier to pick the exact part of the monster you want to hit with the current style. The best aiming option would be mouse+keyboard, but we don't have that :P

I've played other games with wiimote aiming systems and it seemed fine to me. Why shouldn't it work in Monster Hunter?

@Shiny_Rayquaza wrote:
@Spiritlord wrote:
Also, what's with this stupd customisation?

It's what makes it the strongest/most versatile weapon in the game.

I understand that the customisation can be very useful if used properly, I just personally dislike it and find that it's more problematic than helpful.

@Shiny_Rayquaza wrote:
@Spiritlord wrote:
It's pointlessly complicated and means you get one weapon for the price of three

It allows for it to do just about anything you want it to. And each part is fairly cheap. Let's compare making the entire Chaos Wing (Alatreon Bowgun) to making any Alatreon weapon.

Each piece of Chaos Wing costs 14,200z, so multiply that by 3.

3(14200)=42600z

By upgrading the frame you're adding 11,360z to the cost of the weapon which pulls it up to a grand total of 53,960z.

Crafting an Alatreon weapon costs 77,777z and the upgrade costs 100,000z. Chaos Wing costs less then one third of an Alatreon weapon, and it's going to take assloads of ammo in order to make up for the 100,000z+ difference (although you will end up spending more in the long long long run). IIRC this is the most expensive bowgun, but I'm really just going off memory right now since I cba to look up the actual numbers.

When I said 'cost', I meant in materials, not money. I don't know what the high-rank ones are like, but from what I've seen, they cost very similar amounts of materials to other weapons.

@Shiny_Rayquaza wrote:
@Spiritlord wrote:
with worse armour!
You shouldn't really be getting hit with physical attacks if you're using a gun. If you do screw up you'll get hurt though.

Yes, but that's quite heavily helped by the standard nature of the bowgun as a support-based weapon where the monster is not completely focused on ripping your head off, but also in dealing with your comrades. I normally hunt alone and am lonely, due to an unreliable connection, so I don't really get this advantage.

Sapphire wrote:
Ugh dont bash the weapon, bash the users who use them wrong and refuse to improve >.>
You have only just reached high rank, when gunners are at their most useful.
The aiming system can be solved with practice (like alot of things). The customisation allows for a gun to specialise in an ammo type of your choice.
After all, the guns greatest strength is that of veriety in both customistaion and ammo types.
The armor has weaker defence because at a distance, you shouldnt get hit very often anyways.
You should try hunting with experienced gunners, they can make alot of difference...
I don't use them wrong, I don't use them at all! Hehe. I don't really see the point in me practising with a weapon that doesn't suit me. There are plenty of others which I'm fine with, so I'll just stick with them, since I'm not exactly in desperate need for a new weapon. I also never really play online anymore.

I appreciate that, with the right user, the bowgun can be a very good weapon, but I am not the right user and, personally, I really hate using them.


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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:30 pm

my least fav weapons are all the "custom made" ones, they are not supposed to be there and they should not.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:44 pm

@Andrea88GOD wrote:
my least fav weapons are all the "custom made" ones, they are not supposed to be there and they should not.
Then don't mess with them.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:47 pm

In fact, I don't
but I still don't like them and they are my least favourite weapons? you dig?
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:52 pm

Why bring it up when the game itself doesn't even have them?

I dig, but just saying it when you've left your message on another thread is a bit much...
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:54 pm

because the topic asks: "what's your least favourite weapon" and those are my least favourite weapons?
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:04 pm

Lol I have to agree with her that is a valid response. As for my least favorite weapon I'll say divine exodus along with the custom weapons it just doesn't feel right breaking down the games bounderies
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:16 pm

Whatever, but the Message was already in another thread.

And I find little validity about the post in a Tri thread of Tri weapons.
Not a thread about all monster hunter games and their weapons or the hacker communities custom weapons.


Oh well, to continue this thread with no more derailment, this will no longer be talked about anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:33 pm

@It's meh wrote:
Whatever, but the Message was already in another thread.

And I find little validity about the post in a Tri thread of Tri weapons.
Not a thread about all monster hunter games and their weapons or the hacker communities custom weapons.


Oh well, to continue this thread with no more derailment, this will no longer be talked about anymore.

are you the forum cop or something?
yeah I said it in two threads, so? First I didn't used the same words, second both of the threads are about weapons, it's not that I posted it in a "how to make potions" thread.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:41 pm

[quote="Andrea88GOD"]
@It's meh wrote:
Whatever, but the Message was already in another thread.

And I find little validity about the post in a Tri thread of Tri weapons.
Not a thread about all monster hunter games and their weapons or the hacker communities custom weapons.


Oh well, to continue this thread with no more derailment, this will no longer be talked about anymore.

88 wrote:
First I didn't used the same words.

What?
I guess giving a similar message means saying the exact same words...
88 wrote:
second both of the threads are about weapons, it's not that I posted it in a "how to make potions" thread.
Irrelevant, but indeed, you didn't.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:45 pm

ok then: "I'm sorry officer if I said my opinion in a free forum, I'll try not to next time, i swear"
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:06 pm

Darn right!
Now excuse me as I hang up my trousers and polish my badge while I whistle a tune.


Now, I'm not saying the opinion is wrong or anything (Since that's pretty much impossible), it's more about the location of that opinion as well as my personal "beef" about weapons discussed in a Tri weapons thread that aren't even in the game to begin with.

Any who.... *stabs discussion* DIE DANG IT!
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue May 01, 2012 3:31 am

Agree with Andrea there, ppl shouldn't hack the game and go online as it ruins the authentic experience for ppl who want to enjoy the experience of being good at it within its own rules.

Which is a lot more fun ^_^

I used to think my least favorite were Sword and Board and Switch Axe

Then I played long enough and learned to use them properly too.

In my opinion there is no best and worst weapon by a noticeable enough margin, I think some are just better or more fun against certain monsters.

One thing I cant grasp is ppl who think great sword is no good because it is slow. I would point out that It can be one of the fastest weapons to kill a monster, sure it swings the slowest but also hits the hardest, combined with the magic of good timing it is extremely effective and in my opinion the most satisfying weapon and my favourite. xD
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue May 01, 2012 12:48 pm

I can't seem to do good with a great sword or a hammer. They're just not my thing I guess. >.<

I usually go with longsword, but I can use a switch axe, lance, or sword and shield if necessary.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue May 01, 2012 1:07 pm

I just can't get the hang of how a bowgun is supposed to work... I'm just clumsy with it...
As far as melee is concerned, I have problems with the lance and the hammer :|
I usually use LS or SnS to slice stuff up :evil:
If MH3G comes to the west, I'll definitely try out the dualswords^^
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue May 01, 2012 1:32 pm

@Mio wrote:
Agree with Andrea there, ppl shouldn't hack the game and go online as it ruins the authentic experience for ppl who want to enjoy the experience of being good at it within its own rules.

Which is a lot more fun ^_^



Don't bring this up again please
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Tue May 01, 2012 1:57 pm

@Luciarn wrote:
If MH3G comes to the west, I'll definitely try out the dualswords^^

3G is supposed to come out in the west later this year. When, I don't know.

Gonna stick with longsword there, hoping Poison Katana "Cantarella" is in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your LEAST favorite weapon?   Wed May 02, 2012 1:24 am

@Crystalis wrote:
I can't seem to do good with a great sword or a hammer. They're just not my thing I guess. >.<

I usually go with longsword, but I can use a switch axe, lance, or sword and shield if necessary.

@Crystalis wrote:
@Luciarn wrote:
If MH3G comes to the west, I'll definitely try out the dualswords^^

3G is supposed to come out in the west later this year. When, I don't know.

Gonna stick with longsword there, hoping Poison Katana "Cantarella" is in the game.

Thats funny coz Great Sword and Hammer are my favourites!

Since I started playing 3rd Dual swords has become my equal 3rd favourite next to the lance, its just a fun hacky slashy alternative compared to the two timing weapons I normally prefer to use and a great way to spam some element or status fast

Last I checked it out capcom did "officially" say they are gonna translate 3G it but not till about December or something, pretty dissapointing coz 4 will be coming out probably not far off that date Sad by vort

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