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 Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update

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PostSubject: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 9:11 am

::::Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update::::

Its been a moment since I posted and I just wanted to share my little success with you all.

Af ter weeks of random farming and helping others out, I finally:
Forged Diablos Z/Blademaster; gemmed in Destroyer
Forged Ludroth Z/Blademaster; gemmed in Divine Blessing (Might change it not sure yet)
Forged Bandera Azul
Forged Gobulaluku Aquir
Forged Skysunderer
Finished my 7Star Key Quests
Victorious on my 7star Urgent

Ive also been thinking of GreatSwording (-_-) something Im not good at but Ill work on it cause I wanna try to master another weapon. I was gonna do Dual Swording but i kinda changed my mind. Oh and since I got my level cap removed I am at HR 59, which my friend told me was kinda high for the removal, seeing as how he was around HR34 when got his removed. Now that Ive become a "Valid Hunter" (his words, not mines) He is gonna drag me into the Savage jho quests starting today.. Its gonna be a long road....

Anywho, thanx for reading all of this!
Happy Hunting (^_^)
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 10:01 am

Why you didn't use Hunting Journal thread for that... anyways congratz getting Diablos Z. I'm still having problem with thosedamn hardhorns.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 10:07 am

*facepalm* Wasnt thinking. My bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 10:08 am

And thanx!! I almost gave up hope on those Hardhorns
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 6:12 pm

@necrogriphyn wrote:
And thanx!! I almost gave up hope on those Hardhorns
hint : do the sand barioth + black diablos quest, lot better than 3Blos for that
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 10:00 pm

It's only 5% chance in the rewards. Keep in mind that for me solo it takes longer to kill them both than 1 blos. Also keep in mind you have to finish whole quest to have one 5% chance from break and one 5% chance from rewards. It's probably one of the most annoying things to get in the game. Even though 5% is higher than some rare gems with only 1%, the fact that you actually have to kill the monster makes it so impossible to get...

I heard some people say Cloudy Moonshard is rare... yeah right... carves, break and reward. Not even close to hardhorns.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Tue May 14, 2013 11:27 pm

cloudy moonshard is rarer, 2% from body carve, 3% break, and 1% quest. compared to 7% break and 5% quest.

derpy: im talking black diablos rather than normal.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 7:39 am

No it's not.

For Cloudy Moonshard you have four 2% chances per quest to get it from carve, one 3% chance from face break and one 1% from quest rewards. Also there's 2% chance to get it from shiny drop. So overall you have 6-7 chances per quest to get it from only 1 L. Narga.

For hardhorn - if you're facing b. blos + s. bari - you have one 7% chance to get it from horn break and one 5% from quest rewards. That's all. So overall you have 2 chances per quest to get it. And keep in mind this quest takes more time to finish than L. Narga.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 11:10 am

@Antari18 wrote:
No it's not.

For Cloudy Moonshard you have four 2% chances per quest to get it from carve, one 3% chance from face break and one 1% from quest rewards. Also there's 2% chance to get it from shiny drop. So overall you have 6-7 chances per quest to get it from only 1 L. Narga.

For hardhorn - if you're facing b. blos + s. bari - you have one 7% chance to get it from horn break and one 5% from quest rewards. That's all. So overall you have 2 chances per quest to get it. And keep in mind this quest takes more time to finish than L. Narga.

the 5% hardhorn from quests rewards (or 1% for cloudies) is multiplied by number of rewards, isnt'it?
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 5:45 pm

@bill_the_noob wrote:
@Antari18 wrote:
No it's not.

For Cloudy Moonshard you have four 2% chances per quest to get it from carve, one 3% chance from face break and one 1% from quest rewards. Also there's 2% chance to get it from shiny drop. So overall you have 6-7 chances per quest to get it from only 1 L. Narga.

For hardhorn - if you're facing b. blos + s. bari - you have one 7% chance to get it from horn break and one 5% from quest rewards. That's all. So overall you have 2 chances per quest to get it. And keep in mind this quest takes more time to finish than L. Narga.

the 5% hardhorn from quests rewards (or 1% for cloudies) is multiplied by number of rewards, isnt'it?

Percentage is fixed, so no. You do get more chances however, which helps run through the numbers more swiftly and get them sooner.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 7:08 pm

you have 4 2% chances from carve.

3% chance from break.

and a 1% chance on any quest reward slots you have, so if you have 8 slots it's 8 chances etc.

compared to 7% chance on break.

and a 5% chance on any quest reward slots you have.

that is why the hardhorn is more common, the sheer number of quest rewards you can get.

look at it this way, if it's one chance in quest rewards, how do people get multiples of the rare items in quest rewards? never mind that the percent is fixed, and makes no sense when the number of quest rewards is variable.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 7:47 pm

@Chagrilled wrote:
look at it this way, if it's one chance in quest rewards, how do people get multiples of the rare items in quest rewards? never mind that the percent is fixed, and makes no sense when the number of quest rewards is variable.

Yeah. I did the S. Barioth + B. Diablos quest once, and got two hardhorns from the quest rewards. (Which I didn't even need, because I haven't met up with any weapons/armors that I want to make, that require one. Because I use Slime allot! ^_^)
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 9:07 pm

@Chagrilled wrote:
you have 4 2% chances from carve.

3% chance from break.

and a 1% chance on any quest reward slots you have, so if you have 8 slots it's 8 chances etc.

compared to 7% chance on break.

and a 5% chance on any quest reward slots you have.

that is why the hardhorn is more common, the sheer number of quest rewards you can get.

look at it this way, if it's one chance in quest rewards, how do people get multiples of the rare items in quest rewards? never mind that the percent is fixed, and makes no sense when the number of quest rewards is variable.

I... I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me or not, but I think I should elaborate on what I said anyways.

If an item has a 5% chance of dropping, that means that out of 100 drops an average of 5 will be that item. This ratio should remain more or less true no matter how many drops actually happen, and larger numbers tend to make it closer and closer to this ratio. Having more drops of this type per quest should not change this ratio if it is true, it would however cause you to reach 100 drops much quicker, thereby getting the average of 5 items much quicker.

Tl;dr More chances at the same rate means quicker drops of the item you want.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Wed May 15, 2013 9:30 pm

we are saying the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Thu May 16, 2013 1:51 am

@Chagrilled wrote:
we are saying the same thing.

Well yay then. My elaboration still stands!
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PostSubject: Re: Necrogriphyn's Hunting Update   Thu May 16, 2013 9:38 am

@MasterOnion wrote:
Tl;dr More chances at the same rate means quicker drops of the item you want.

Cloudy have more chances than hardhorns so yeah it's more common.
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