Ala Newb Lance Set

As of last night, I have access to my Ala Urgent. I'm most comfortable learning a new monster with the lance. At some point, I will probably switch to a more aggressive weapon. Until that day arrives, I shall murder Ala to death with the Sabertooth (G).

Here is my set:

http://divinewh.im/s/2.1S_1Z_1f.R_1Y.S.1R_1e.S.1R_1c.S_v.j.14


(I don't know how to embed the link. Sorry...) It's basically full Aggy + with Guard Boost, Evasion +1, and Dragon gemmed in with a +5 Evasion and Dragon Res +10 tali.

It seems a little heavy in the defense area. Is the Evasion +1 over kill with Guard Boost? Should I forgo the Evasion +1 and remove the Short Sprinter?

Your thoughts?

generally, if u hav guard +2 then evade +1 would seem really useless (unless u prefer to evade lance, then i suggest using bari+) and u dont hav to worry bout the short sprinter as long u hav dash/mega dash juice

and the guard boost saves lives if u plan to attack the front of ala

just poke, poke, poke, counter, rinse and repeat

To be honest, ala isn't a monster that evade is really good on. His fireballs have to be blocked, and his B-slap is better to counter. You'll need to get guard boost if you wanna block his fireballs though.

If you don't get evade, get...something. Speed sharp, AUX, whatever. There's just not much "neccessary" lancing skills aside from guard+(and boost on some monsters) and evade(which you don't need for ala).

When fighting him in a team, he's fairly easy to lance. Just get used to him, and you'll find out the right move for the right time (there's not much depth to lancing him). Just be careful of his backhop-fireball and his flying mode. And don't be too aggressive first time, you'll be chasing him for a big part of the fight anyway (he has a tendency to charge to people on the other side of the map).

If you DO wanna evade-lance him, get Evade up. You'll be able to get out of the range of his fireballs in 2 hops or so, which is a big help.

Alright, I'm going to downgrade my status from Newb to Ultra NEWB by asking the following question. What exactly is "Evade Lancing"? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume part of it is evading rather than blocking, but can someone give an example. I did a search, but only found a guide that was slammed as not being good.

RDC wrote:

Alright, I'm going to downgrade my status from Newb to Ultra NEWB by asking the following question. What exactly is "Evade Lancing"? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume part of it is evading rather than blocking, but can someone give an example. I did a search, but only found a guide that was slammed as not being good.

It's exactly what you said. You hop through attacks rather than blocking. It's more offensive, but counter is beastly shit, so I prefer guard lancing.

RDC wrote:

Alright, I'm going to downgrade my status from Newb to Ultra NEWB by asking the following question. What exactly is "Evade Lancing"? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume part of it is evading rather than blocking, but can someone give an example. I did a search, but only found a guide that was slammed as not being good.

Basically, you evade instead of block/counter. Evade+1/2 increases the amount of invincibility frames there are when jumping or rolling. This makes it a favourite among blademaster weapons without a block option.

But evade works on the lance hop too. Without evade, you'll be able to dodge through tailslams and the like, if you time correctly. With evade+2, you'll be able to dodge just about anything, provided you get out of the attack before the dodge ends.

It's generally a more efficient, and far more pro, style than counter-lancing. You won't be forced to wait for an attack, you can move around easily, and you'll never suffer from recoil you might take from blocking. Alatreon might be the exception, because his fireball has a very big range (and needs guard boost to be blocked). Aside from that, his attacks are just easily counterable, but last fairly long (charges with huge range, so the dodge will be over before the attack is).

I think I will remove the evasion +1 and add in something else. I don't remember what talis I have. I have a 00 Trapmaster +8. I have a feeling that will not be useful.

I also have Full Barioth+ with AuS. I'll have to try Evade Lancing on a monster a know better.

Thanks for the info.

After 3 atempts, the team of hunters I was with took down Ala. The first try everyone carted but me in under 5 mnutes. The second try lasted longer. I did eat it once that time. The third time we beat him up in around 30 mins.

I ended up using full aggy+ and with the help of a fairly useful tali, I had:

Guard+2
Guard boost
flame aura
razorsharp
ice res +10
speed sharpener

it was a bit better than my previous one.

That's a nice set you have there. I don't think you need anything else.

...I find his b-slap far more dangerous than the fireballs though. It always comes out of the blue.

the charge and dives are deceptively huge looking... you can dodge thru them with just evasion+1... hell, the charge you can walk thru it if you avoid the feet

First time I properly squared up to Alatreon on my old character was with Sabertooth G and a standard Aggy+/Aggy mix to give Guard +2 and Guard Boost.

I tore him to shreds.