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PostSubject: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 7:00 am

So I've always been a Great Sword player. As of late I've been wanting to change over to Dual Swords for the speed and game play change. what tips do you folks have for somebody who has played nothing but Great Sword up until this point when it comes to the Dual Swords? Any help and insight is appreciated! Thanks all!!
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 7:59 am

For a complete nub to dual blading?
Don't spam demon dance, ( you'll know what that is when you find it )
just run in and slash stuff up untill you get familiar with combo's and what comes after what button then you can sort of start timing slashes monsters walk by ya and what moves help cut tails or what not.

I'm just kinda rambling, i'm half asleep sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 8:52 am

Get used to have nothing for range. With greatswords, half of the trick is hitting the monster with the charged tip of the sword, with the DS/DB range you might as well be kicking the monster. The main difference between the DS/DB and SnS is that you get a steroid effect, and a very tiny bit of extra mobility instead of a shield.

Also, chasing tails with the DS/DB is miserable. You just take as many potshots as you can at most monster's legs.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 10:42 am

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Get used to have nothing for range. With greatswords, half of the trick is hitting the monster with the charged tip of the sword.

Actually no, you do more damage if you hit the monster at the center of the Greatsword.

Blderunner, I am a Greatsword player since MH1, but I also use all the weapons, including Dual Swords. First thing I can recommend is to learn all the moves and combos, there are quite a few of them. After you are comfortable with the DB, practice. Practice makes perfect. Try using them on simple monsters, then slightly move up to more difficult monsters. When you feel that you can use them at ease, then your ready to start farming for some better weapons and armor. Some skills you might consider are: Razor Sharp, Earplugs, Stamina Recov, Evade Distance Up, Sharpness +1.

For additional info here are some links:

Dual Blades Attack Guide
https://mhwiki.forumotion.net/t9461-dual-swords-in-depth-attack-guide

Dual Blades in MH3U
https://www.youtube.com/user/757PAiN?feature=mhee

Also, if you have the guide, there is some info on there about Dual Blades.

Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 12:32 pm

PAiN--- wrote:
Paralykeet wrote:
Get used to have nothing for range. With greatswords, half of the trick is hitting the monster with the charged tip of the sword.

Actually no, you do more damage if you hit the monster at the center of the Greatsword.

o__O Did I say anything to the contrary? I thought I was pointing out that you get more hits with charged attacks because sometimes the monster will move slightly but you still get to wing them due to the GS's relatively large range.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 12:40 pm

I've actually had great success with using Dual-swords in the past, especially against beast/psuedo wyverns like Zinogre and Tigrex. To be honest, unless the enemy keeps its tail out of the height range of the DS, I've never had a problem tail cutting with DS either. My strategy with them is much the same with any weapon, sheath until attack, especially with DS, as their unsheath attack is a dash that hits 2-3 times. My best advice is just to practice and you'll get the hang of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 2:08 pm

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For a complete nub to dual blading?
Don't spam demon dance, ( you'll know what that is when you find it )

I used that a few times every now and then, but I think I'm unlucky because everytime I use it, I always take a lot of damage or cart. for whatever reason.
Anyway, what I find myself doing a lot is doing the rush forward slash attack where if you press X and A at the same time, you'll do that move. It's also your draw attack if your moving. I like it because you can do a roll to the side very fast after it.
If I manage to stagger it with the attack that I just mentioned, then I'll usually follow it with more X button spamming, till that combo ends, and then I'll start spamming A to finish it.
Just a kick note, the A combo attack has some moves where you jump into the air swinging the blades, allowing you to at least get a couple hits into a monsters tail. (if you can hit it)
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 2:20 pm

The Demon Dance is one of the best moves to use, but only at the right time. You have to know what moves and combos are needed when a monster has an opening. There is no blocking with DB so it's important that you know the moves.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 2:35 pm

Goes to guild card missions with dual blades 200+ with lance 3 with gun lance 11 lolz.
I used to hammer and lance but i decided to go with dual blades and i have a 3ds so i've been soloing all the frking game and i never played with them here is wath i can tell you:
1. they are easy to upgrade or at least it has been easy for me.
2. Demon dance it's the kreeeeg if you get enugh dash extract omg you are good, also you can combine the chakalaka dances so they can give you infinite stamina so you can do enugh damage on those minutes. Also this game is so easy at the beginning that those minutes will be enugh to finish the quest.
3. Saddly yea you don't have that much reach like you had with the great sword.
4. You can't cut tail???? LOLLL yesterday i killed 3 jhos and i got the tail from them and got 1 gem fk yea!!. You aim for the legs and make that monster trip like crazzy, i can make a jho trip like 6 to 7 times, really funny becouse one time he had just triped and i made it trip again hahahahahah i was demon dancing my ass off on his belly.
5. The stamina consumption if you are demon dancing is crazzy so yea you have to be carefull with that, i've been in many situations where i couldn't evade becouse i was goofing around with demon dancing and had no stamina was fun though.

Longest quest i've made so far (im still working on the high ranks on the village i don't have that much extra time to finish this game in 3 days), it's like 20 min and i've only been karted twice, once becouse i wanted to becouse i forgot my meat and i wanted stamina hahahha and the other by brachy becouse he pawned my ass 4 times in a row in a corner i think he was going for the rape /scar/ , so i coudn't pot.

Dual blades are great and im rocking brachy ones, and before the haters come, i also have every single dual blade and working my way on upgrading them, i don't like to grid much so i only have on my set Atack up Large and Critical eye one.

Hope y helped.


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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 2:51 pm

PAiN--- wrote:
The Demon Dance is one of the best moves to use, but only at the right time. You have to know what moves and combos are needed when a monster has an opening. There is no blocking with DB so it's important that you know the moves.

I don't know, I've always been unlucky, because most of the time I do it, even if I could guarantee that it can't hit me for a few seconds, it somehow results with me talking massive damage, or else carting. I'm not saying it's bad howver, I'm just saying I have terrible luck. Even without unlucky cat.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 2:56 pm

Timing with the demon dance can be tricky, but enough practice and knowledge of the monsters attacks and you should be fine. Lol I don't think Unlucky cat has anything to do with being hit. usually it only affects Your HP and Stamina at the beginning of a mission from what ive seen.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 3:00 pm

E&Troy wrote:
PAiN--- wrote:
The Demon Dance is one of the best moves to use, but only at the right time. You have to know what moves and combos are needed when a monster has an opening. There is no blocking with DB so it's important that you know the moves.

I don't know, I've always been unlucky, because most of the time I do it, even if I could guarantee that it can't hit me for a few seconds, it somehow results with me talking massive damage, or else carting. I'm not saying it's bad howver, I'm just saying I have terrible luck. Even without unlucky cat.
Try this:
Rathian charges at you, you avoid, and its about to turn around, it turns on chacha, who is close enugh, you demon dance, rathian does the bite thing wich is dumb but the pink rathian does it with fire and then just then it seems cool.
Now since it did the bite thing and you are close enugh and you had demon dance on you charge and hit enugh times, rathian starts doing the tail swing WHO CARES!! you just keep hitting it becouse you are under her.

Now if you do a demon dance and rathian runs all the way to the other side of the map well you demon dance off and try to look for a better chance. Yes you can canceal it!!! Is all about waiting for the right moment, but if that moment never comes well take chances!!! make it trip!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 3:04 pm

elchele wrote:
E&Troy wrote:
PAiN--- wrote:
The Demon Dance is one of the best moves to use, but only at the right time. You have to know what moves and combos are needed when a monster has an opening. There is no blocking with DB so it's important that you know the moves.

I don't know, I've always been unlucky, because most of the time I do it, even if I could guarantee that it can't hit me for a few seconds, it somehow results with me talking massive damage, or else carting. I'm not saying it's bad howver, I'm just saying I have terrible luck. Even without unlucky cat.
Try this:
Rathian charges at you, you avoid, and its about to turn around, it turns on chacha, who is close enugh, you deamon dance, rathian does the bite thing wich is dumb but the pink rathian does it with fire and then just then it seems cool.
Now since it did the bite thing and you are close enugh and you had deamon dance on you charge and hit enugh times, rathian starts doing the tail swing WHO CARES!! you just keep hitting it becouse you are under her.

Now if you do a deamon dance and rathian runs all the way to the other side of the map well you deamon dance off and try to look for a betther chance. Yes you can canceal it!!! Is all about waiting for the right moment, but if that moment never comes well take chances!!! make it trip!!!

It's like, I try those things, but I still manage to get hit! I'm not joking, I have terrible luck when it comes to using the demon dance thing. I feel like now is the perfect time because it just staggered, but it somehow manages to make me cart.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 3:09 pm

Also i've been focusing more on defense than in other skills, so if i can upgreade to a better armor i do it.
I try to keep upgrading and still get the skills i've been using so far Atack Up Large and Critical eye +1. So far i have like 400+ defense maybe you need a better armor.
Volvidon is good you get some atack and can get evade +1 and better stuff if you gem it right im just lazzy.
Try that check how much defense you have more defense = less pots and less damage on you.
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PostSubject: Re: Great Sword vs Dual Swords   Great Sword vs Dual Swords Icon_minitimeWed Apr 17, 2013 3:27 pm

I don't think it's my armor. I just got my H. Jhen armor, and gemmed in evasion +2. (which unfortunately gemmed out Health +50, and instead does health +20) My armor is 590+, So it shouldn't be a problem.
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