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PostSubject: 3G for the west   Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:58 am

First topic message reminder :

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/18/capcoms-christian-svensson-comments-on-monster-hunter-3g-and-4-localizations/

So it looks likely we will be seeing 3G in the west.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:05 am

I'm sure that fans will find a way to play the game even without an internet connection. People can organize meet ups and hire venues with small door fees. Or people could find a few friends in the area around them with a 3DS and Monster Hunter.

It's not like Mario Party or Bomberman or any other title with excellent multiplayer has drowned simply because of a lack of online play.






I'm not entirely sure of the technical skill level of the fanbase, but I have a feeling there may be some 'virtual local area network connection' development for the 3DS. (Think Ad Hoc but with a PC.)

I believe they tried something along those lines for the original DS, it was called 'tunneling'. Apparently it didn't go anywhere because of a lack of support.

We'll see though. We'll see.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:13 am

@Jader7777 wrote:
I'm sure that fans will find a way to play the game even without an internet connection. People can organize meet ups and hire venues with small door fees. Or people could find a few friends in the area around them with a 3DS and Monster Hunter.

It's not like Mario Party or Bomberman or any other title with excellent multiplayer has drowned simply because of a lack of online play.






I'm not entirely sure of the technical skill level of the fanbase, but I have a feeling there may be some 'virtual local area network connection' development for the 3DS. (Think Ad Hoc but with a PC.)

I believe they tried something along those lines for the original DS, it was called 'tunneling'. Apparently it didn't go anywhere because of a lack of support.

We'll see though. We'll see.

Do you realize you posted in a 3 months old thread?

Also, MH wasn't made specifically for multiplayer, so i don't see any of it happening. 99% of the players isn't gonna go anywhere just to play with others. Only those with friends who have the game will be able to do so. And no, 3DS owners will not be capable of making a reliable multiplayer using PC's.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:58 am

@Win32error wrote:
Do you realize you posted in a 3 months old thread?

Also, MH wasn't made specifically for multiplayer, so i don't see any of it happening. 99% of the players isn't gonna go anywhere just to play with others. Only those with friends who have the game will be able to do so. And no, 3DS owners will not be capable of making a reliable multiplayer using PC's.
His post is still contributing, so I don't see a need to get your 'nips in a twist...

Anyways, you never know what might be brought out for local -> online play. Maybe a software will be developed for Wii U, since 3DS can connect to it?
And if you ask me, saying MH wasn't made specifically for multiplayer is a bunch of crap. The very first game had a proper online town. Even better than Tri's US/EU release town, with more player support. Ad-Hoc Party was (apparently) developed with MH in mind. So people could play a local game online. There's a Monster Hunter MMO. Saying it wasn't made specifically for multiplayer is a bit odd, considering pretty much every main series title (not including the spinoffs like Felyne diary, and I'm counting the Portable titles as "main series") has either had proper online or was able to be played online.
Good day to you, sir.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:32 am

You do realize that western releases of games have been known to add features that were not included in the original Japan release of games? Though honestly I do not see this happening for 3G. What I do see happening though is them adding full online to MH4. IF 3G gets released in the west they should leve it without online to give it as early of a release as possible and just put the online in MH4. I can live without 3G having online as long as we get it at all and get 4 sooner instead of later.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:59 pm

@dcj91x wrote:
You do realize that western releases of games have been known to add features that were not included in the original Japan release of games? Though honestly I do not see this happening for 3G. What I do see happening though is them adding full online to MH4. IF 3G gets released in the west they should leve it without online to give it as early of a release as possible and just put the online in MH4. I can live without 3G having online as long as we get it at all and get 4 sooner instead of later.

Entirely agreed, though I can see Capcom/Nintendo deciding whether or not to release 4 over here based on how well Tri G does.

... If it does.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:25 pm

@Ataraxia wrote:
@dcj91x wrote:
You do realize that western releases of games have been known to add features that were not included in the original Japan release of games? Though honestly I do not see this happening for 3G. What I do see happening though is them adding full online to MH4. IF 3G gets released in the west they should leve it without online to give it as early of a release as possible and just put the online in MH4. I can live without 3G having online as long as we get it at all and get 4 sooner instead of later.

Entirely agreed, though I can see Capcom/Nintendo deciding whether or not to release 4 over here based on how well Tri G does.

... If it does.

At a capcom board meeting.

President: "Hmm, TriG sales were horrible outside of Asia. We shall not release MH4 globally."
Junior board member: "But...we only released TriG in Japan!"
*The entire Board stares at Junior member*.
President: "It is decided then, no wordwide release."
*Board members applaud president*.


To Yama.

There is an active threads discussing the lack of online. Seemed pointless to restart another one.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:25 am

@Win32error wrote:


At a capcom board meeting.

President: "Hmm, TriG sales were horrible outside of Asia. We shall not release MH4 globally."
Junior board member: "But...we only released TriG in Japan!"
*The entire Board stares at Junior member*.
President: "It is decided then, no wordwide release."
*Board members applaud president*.

It has to be a bad thing when I can actually see that happening.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:22 am

As much as I hate to type this, I don't think people in the west are going to get Tri G. I say this because Monster Hunter just doesn't have as much pulling power in the west as games such as Dead Rising and Resident Evil. In today's global economy Capcom can't really afford to spending the money localizing and promoting a game like Tri G only for there to be a small amount of profit. Also one must realize the state Capcom is in, they canceled Megaman Legends 3, and the Megaman games sell as well as Monster Hunter in Japan. Of course we can't forget the fact that people in the west are whiny bitchEs when they don get exactly what they want
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:29 am

They cancelled Megaman Legends 3 because at that particular point in time, they were pulling away from Nintendo. Ninty then clearly managed to do something to get MH onto the 3DS
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:24 am

^ Nintendo made some deal with some evil force somewhere, there whole price cut worked great and is a basis for why many are holding off on the vita and the release of 3G was times amazingly well in Japan as well. Even the likely Christmas launce of mh4 this year will be another big seller.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:25 pm

@Quentin wrote:
As much as I hate to type this, I don't think people in the west are going to get Tri G. I say this because Monster Hunter just doesn't have as much pulling power in the west as games such as Dead Rising and Resident Evil. In today's global economy Capcom can't really afford to spending the money localizing and promoting a game like Tri G only for there to be a small amount of profit. Also one must realize the state Capcom is in, they canceled Megaman Legends 3, and the Megaman games sell as well as Monster Hunter in Japan. Of course we can't forget the fact that people in the west are whiny bitchEs when they don get exactly what they want

This is true, except that it doesn't apply to the Legends games. They sold like crap EVERYWHERE.
No wonder Legends is the least like MM series after Starforce.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:43 pm

^I'm talking about Megaman as a whole, not just the one game, Megaman as a whole sells almost as much as Monster Hunter
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:40 pm

@Quentin wrote:
^I'm talking about Megaman as a whole, not just the one game, Megaman as a whole sells almost as much as Monster Hunter
As a whole MM sold at least 10 million units more than MH. But what i was trying to say is that every MM game can make a sale success, except those from the Legends series.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:15 pm

They need to have a better marketing campaign here. Most people I know that try the game tend to love it.

Maybe a commercial where Chuck Norris beats a Rathalos unconscious?
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:01 pm

@Skinsword wrote:
They need to have a better marketing campaign here. Most people I know that try the game tend to love it.

Maybe a commercial where Chuck Norris beats a Rathalos unconscious?

Did you not SEE Ironbead?!
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:29 pm

^ one of the best marketing campaigns for any game EVER! And it did work.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:52 pm

I'm curious to know what exactly the sales were for Tri in the West. I knew nothing about the game until I was slammed with posters in the Rockefeller subway station in NYC. As you exited the station there were posters all over the walls on pillars. Clearly, their marketing worked on me.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:50 pm

Dat IronBeard. (since when did we know his name?)
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:20 pm

@Ataraxia wrote:
Dat IronBeard. (since when did we know his name?)

The commercials had a link to his facebook. He stopped being active though Sad by vort.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:15 am

Maybe Capcom should also bribe reviewers for good reviews lol
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:53 pm

No need, Famitsu gave it a 38/40 in their review, now using a complicated 15 minute formula (my ramen took forever to cook) we can see that this roughly translates into a 9.5/10
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:06 pm

@Quentin wrote:
No need, Famitsu gave it a 38/40 in their review, now using a complicated 15 minute formula (my ramen took forever to cook) we can see that this roughly translates into a 9.5/10
Pfft, Famitsu gives EVERY big name game a high score.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:37 pm

It would be nice if they made a Wii port of this game for the Western audience that allowed for wide ranging online gameplay servers instead of gameplay only connected to other 3DSes within infrared range. It would be even nicer if with that you could transport all your Tri data over to the game like armors, weapons, etc. etc.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:44 pm

@Roon wrote:
It would be nice if they made a Wii port of this game for the Western audience that allowed for wide ranging online gameplay servers instead of gameplay only connected to other 3DSes within infrared range. It would be even nicer if with that you could transport all your Tri data over to the game like armors, weapons, etc. etc.

Apparently the 3G is a port...
For the 3DS.
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PostSubject: Re: 3G for the west   Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:19 pm

3G is a port ot actually more of an expansion, with better everything basically. And it would be pointless to make anything for the wii since the WiiU comes out on June.
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