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ceadeus tail.... been farming for them and only got two (from the repel only quest)

in the decisive battle, I've broken his tail numerous times and never got a tail.... (do i actually have to go to the tail and carve????)

(got deep dragon gem almost very time..... and 2 elderdragon blood in one run too...)

or does the repel only quest (save moga village) have a higher drop rate???

MAJOR BAD LUCK?

dainbramage wrote:

Leonhardt wrote:

Axel3 wrote:

dainbramage wrote:

Right, and if you're SnSing then nardeboshe is the best choice.

"Status SnS is really bad"

WHAT!
You said status SnS is really bad!?!
I have to admit nardebosche is better damage wise
But those few seconds when the monster is para'd and you're friends do lots of damage is PRICELESS...

I/most things > status sns....cmon...uve seen it....

Yeah... you para the monster twice in the hunt. That's well and good, except that your damage contribution is roughly equivalent to attempting to turkey slap that uragaan to death. 20s of paralysis doesn't make up for not doing any damage.

20s of para could cut a tail, or KO a monster, and maybe even both!
I'm just saying if everyone else has endgame wepons and u give them a chance for damage that will eventually add up to more then you doing that damage.
Now I rest my case...

Does Raw or Element matter for tail cutting?

cut damage is the only damage that counts, element damage, impact damage, shot damage and typeless damage will not cut a tail.

TiroDvD wrote:

Does Raw or Element matter for tail cutting?

elemental damage won't contibute to cutting damage that will get the tail off, however, a weapon with high elemental damage may cause more overall staggers.

In that sense, it matters. a "good" stagger will keep the tail lined up for an extra swing, a "bad" stagger will put you out of position.

real example:
ravager blade 720 green vs
rathalos firesword 672 green, 410 fire.

you'd think, ravager has more raw, so it will cut tail faster... however against (low rank offline) barioth, I found the firesword's extra staggers make a difference and the tail came off faster.

Of course, that's an extreme case.

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

first set is acceptable for a first time.

2nd set is not better than full vangis, which will be an option at that point.

Ugthorf wrote:

TiroDvD wrote:

Does Raw or Element matter for tail cutting?

elemental damage won't contibute to cutting damage that will get the tail off, however, a weapon with high elemental damage may cause more overall staggers .... Of course, that's an extreme case.

Ah. Well the more extreme case is me using the Sharq Attaq. 230 Raw, 450 Water. While it's true that I don't need Agnaktor Tails -now-, it ought to be good for practice and the rewards.

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

like wat ugthorf said, the 1st link is pretty much only good once...for ur urgent...after that grind conq seals and mats to make the 2nd link OR try to make this set: http://divinewh.im/s/2.H.L_1f.N_1l_1e_m_1e.N_19.Q.M
i improved it ;)

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

Silly blademasters crit eye is for gunners
http://divinewh.im/s/2.H.s_1f.u_1l_1e_m_1e.u_18.a.t

Edit: wait you are lancing so try this
http://divinewh.im/s/2.1W.1R_1Z_1f.O_1Y.O.O.O_1e.O.1S_1c.1S_18.j.1S

Will wrote:

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

Silly blademasters crit eye is for gunners
http://divinewh.im/s/2.H.s_1f.u_1l_1e_m_1e.u_18.a.t

NU UH....not if u hav sabertooth G :P

Leonhardt wrote:

Will wrote:

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

Silly blademasters crit eye is for gunners
http://divinewh.im/s/2.H.s_1f.u_1l_1e_m_1e.u_18.a.t

NU UH....not if u hav sabertooth G :P

Funny thing about affinity.
You can have 99% (Not really) And still manage to use a whole sns combo with no affinity strikes at all.... XD

I once used Narde with CE+3 and managed to do 2 combos with no affinity at all.... It was ridiculous.

compared to other end games weapons, the gap between AuL and Crit Eye +3 is especially large on sabertooth.

On Sabertooth:
AuL gives a 12.5% boost to raw, vs. 6.6% for crit eye +3
On Gleam:
AuL gives a 11.1% boost to raw, vs. 7.5% for crit eye +3

TiroDVD, in the case of Ravager vs Firesword, I'm only giving up 8% raw to get 13% more damage (assuming that since barioth is moving around so much I have to snipe)
For sharq attack vs agnaktor, let's review your options:

High Stab Combos to the agnaktor tail, red-hot:
Sharq:
Total: 51 damage (4 times to stagger)
Spiral lance+ ~18% more raw
Total: 46 damage (4 times to stagger)
Tusk Lance+ ~29% more raw
Total: 55 damage (3 times to stagger)
babel spear ~35% more raw
Total: 43 damage (4 times to stagger)

whoops. while most of the body aggy has higher water weakness, on tail his ice weakness is actually stronger. This makes the tusk lance+ the stagger king.

Now, once you're done with the tail, you can move to all those spots like the chest, where sharq beats tusk+. it's worth taking the substantial hit in tailcutting time to kill aggy faster overall with sharq, but tusk lance+ will cut tail on it faster.

It's meh wrote:

Leonhardt wrote:

Will wrote:

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

Silly blademasters crit eye is for gunners
http://divinewh.im/s/2.H.s_1f.u_1l_1e_m_1e.u_18.a.t

NU UH....not if u hav sabertooth G :P

Funny thing about affinity.
You can have 99% (Not really) And still manage to use a whole sns combo with no affinity strikes at all.... XD

I once used Narde with CE+3 and managed to do 2 combos with no affinity at all.... It was ridiculous.

wow, thats some horrible luck...i never seem to hav any problems with affinity...even the negative ones :/

But with my set I dont have to choose between affinity and attack up

You choose to not have sharpness+1. I wouldn't reccomend it.

Hey, I'm having trouble farming Ceadeus. I always repel it when I want to kill it.. Help please

Merged into the hotline.

Ontopic: First of all, repelling ceadeus is fine. If you redo the quest after repelling it, it will keep the damage you have done, allowing you to kill by repeating the quest.

For ceadeus, using a lance is great (lance charge is good for water travelling). LS is a good alternative. In both cases, lagi weapons will suffice, though the upgraded rusted lance will probably be the best.


Edit: Welcome to the forum!

On Ceadeus, do not reset. just keep fighting till it dies, over multiple quests. The first mission is repel only.

it keeps the damage.

That said, you may need to change weapons. the best at low rank would be the undertaker lance(rust weapon), even if you don't lance normally. If you can't get your hands on a dragon weapon, thunder is your next best bet.

Ugthorf wrote:

Quentin wrote:

Would this be a good set for hunting Alatreon http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_a.L_d_a_e_d.t_19.Q.t
I would use this with Sabertooth (G)

Edit: Would this be good?
http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1m_1l_1e_1k.E.M_h_19.Q.M

2nd set is not better than full vangis, which will be an option at that point.

More importantly, it's worse than http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1f.H.M_1l_1e_m_1e.N_19.Q.M (and really all of the other commonly used ones too) as far as helios mixes go.

EDIT: Fixed the set link, as pointed out below.

Did you get the right set there? Because with those slots/charms you can get better results with the good old helios+/LR coil/Vangis boots mix (even if it's bit boring to use that all the time). http://divinewh.im/s/2.M_1f.H.M_1l_1e_m_1e.N_19.Q.M

herp derp forgot to click the link for the actual new set.

But yeah it was just that helios/vangis mix.

When in a Secret Area in HR using Feline Explorer should I bring a Bug Net, Pickax or both?

I usually just take a pickaxe, never had a problem getting bugs before. So few high rank armors and weapons even use the bugs, but the ore spots can hold charms/shards that might turn out useful. You can take a bug net if you want, but I don't think it matters.

Silverwind wrote:

I usually just take a pickaxe, never had a problem getting bugs before. So few high rank armors and weapons even use the bugs, but the ore spots can hold charms/shards that might turn out useful. You can take a bug net if you want, but I don't think it matters.

Ah but bugs are essential to me, godbugs it's for eventually life powders, flash bugs for flash bombs, thunder bugs for shock trap, etc.

And pickaxes are a must, for that precious ore and charms.

Axel3 wrote:

Ah but bugs are essential to me, godbugs it's for eventually life powders, flash bugs for flash bombs, thunder bugs for shock trap, etc.

And pickaxes are a must, for that precious ore and charms.

I laugh at those that haven't completed offline for the fully upgraded farm. But I suppose if you don't have that, then you could take a bug net too. As for thunder bugs, I just buy stacks of them on Jhen days online. Otherwise it's offline free hunt to get trade items for the Argosy. I don't think the bugs you'd get from the odd secret area spot would make much difference compared to those.