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ceadeus tail.... been farming for them and only got two (from the repel only quest)

in the decisive battle, I've broken his tail numerous times and never got a tail.... (do i actually have to go to the tail and carve????)

(got deep dragon gem almost very time..... and 2 elderdragon blood in one run too...)

or does the repel only quest (save moga village) have a higher drop rate???

MAJOR BAD LUCK?

Tavok101 wrote:

I consider Poison Stinger/Barrozooka/Thundacrus the better one since its gonna have higher attack, just watch out for deviation can be hard to have.

I cam gem deviation+, so that shouldn't be a problem (I can't gem in pierce boost nor pierce up anyway, since I don't have any charm with those skills), leaving small recoil left/right, which is negligible. So, should i keep that gun?

Yeah keep it it served me well atleast.

ROGER wrote:

dainbramage wrote:

ROGER wrote:

anyway i can get attack up L on this??? (plz consider me being HR40ish)
http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_c.1R_1Z_Y.t_1a.u_15.E_a.a

edit:
another failed attempt
http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_u.t_1Z_c_o.s_15_a.a

and another
http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_11_13_c_o.s_15.1R_N.j

http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_1A.t_1Z_Y.t_1a.1S.1R_15.E_a.a

EDIT: And with 2 weapon slots:
http://divinewh.im/s/2.s.1R_1B.t_1H_Y.1S_1a.1S.1R_15.E_a.a

you are awesome. now i just needa kill some jhos to get the onslaught jewels. thanks again

edit:
is there anyway i can get +17 attack without any weapon slots??? i have an eva+4 charm btw

edit:
nvm got it
http://divinewh.im/s/0_1B.s.1R_1H_Y.1S_1a.1S.1R_15.E_a.a

Did you even click on the second link I put down? That's the exact same set...

dainbramage wrote:

ROGER wrote:

dainbramage wrote:

ROGER wrote:

anyway i can get attack up L on this??? (plz consider me being HR40ish)
http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_c.1R_1Z_Y.t_1a.u_15.E_a.a

edit:
another failed attempt
http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_u.t_1Z_c_o.s_15_a.a

and another
http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_11_13_c_o.s_15.1R_N.j

http://divinewh.im/s/3.u_1A.t_1Z_Y.t_1a.1S.1R_15.E_a.a

EDIT: And with 2 weapon slots:
http://divinewh.im/s/2.s.1R_1B.t_1H_Y.1S_1a.1S.1R_15.E_a.a

you are awesome. now i just needa kill some jhos to get the onslaught jewels. thanks again

edit:
is there anyway i can get +17 attack without any weapon slots??? i have an eva+4 charm btw

edit:
nvm got it
http://divinewh.im/s/0_1B.s.1R_1H_Y.1S_1a.1S.1R_15.E_a.a

Did you even click on the second link I put down? That's the exact same set...

yes, i just had to figure out the gem positionings..... btw i got an eva+7. happy. /yes/

Which is better in Sword Mode against jhen, Great Inceadeus or Alatreon Switch axe?

Tyrian wrote:

Which is better in Sword Mode against jhen, Great Inceadeus or Alatreon Switch axe?

GI

Other than Jhozilla, what event gives the best chance to get timeworms as rewards?

Rene wrote:

Other than Jhozilla, what event gives the best chance to get timeworms as rewards?

i think barioth-rathalos, not sure tho

So I'm about to start mastering the Greatsword and the Hammer. I heard Critical Draw and Focus are useful skills for both weapons. Currently I have a Helios/Vangis mix with Sharp+1, HGE and slots for a third skill. Should I get Focus or Critical Draw? Or should I make a new armor set that has both?

Lord wrote:

So I'm about to start mastering the Greatsword and the Hammer. I heard Critical Draw and Focus are useful skills for both weapons. Currently I have a Helios/Vangis mix with Sharp+1, HGE and slots for a third skill. Should I get Focus or Critical Draw? Or should I make a new armor set that has both?

Okay, there's some debate on this. I use:

Helios+
Helios+
Helios+
Helios
Vangis

Pretty normal set, with a slight bit of gemming, i can switch between focus and crit draw. Now a lot of people say focus is useless, because with perfect positioning and timing, you can basically ignore focus. It works differently when with 4 people, the monster will often get out of the way before you can hit a lvl 3 charge. Crit draw simply adds a lot of damage, and makes hit/run on some monsters very easy.

I prefer crit draw because focus doesn't seem to add that much speed, but it may help you get a LOT more lvl 3 charges, instead of having to settle for a lvl 2.

Now on to the hammer: use crit draw. As you may know, directly charging from sheathing will make both the small and the big hit from a superpound a crit. Quite often though, you'll be running around, fully charged, just because you can't find an opportunity, or because you really wanna hit the head. Focus will not do very much right then.

It's possible to use focus with a hammer, on alatreon and some others, by quickly using the lvl 2 charge in a tiny spot. So i guess it's not impossible.

Win32error wrote:

Lord wrote:

So I'm about to start mastering the Greatsword and the Hammer. I heard Critical Draw and Focus are useful skills for both weapons. Currently I have a Helios/Vangis mix with Sharp+1, HGE and slots for a third skill. Should I get Focus or Critical Draw? Or should I make a new armor set that has both?

Now on to the hammer: use crit draw. As you may know, directly charging from sheathing will make both the small and the big hit from a superpound a crit.

Pretty sure only the first hit of the hammer pound is a critical hit with Critical Draw. Thought there was a thread or section of a thread on this in the past. Can someone verify please.

I would personally recommend Focus for the hammer as it priovides you with extra opportunites to lay the smack down with a level 3 charge or follow up a stagger with a level 2 charge.

I've been looking for how to calc basic pierce damage. This is what I have been able to find:

Pierce1 10% raw X 3 hits
Pierce2 9% raw X 4 hits
Pierce3 8% raw X 5 hits

Is this correct?

Edit: Another question. Does critical eye effect Wyvern Fire?

Nope rene, both hits. And i dunno about the pierce.

Also: 69 PAGES!

Win32error wrote:

Nope rene, both hits. And i dunno about the pierce.

Also: 69 PAGES!

Maybe it was Punishing draw that was being debated then... :scratch:

Possibly. Punishing draw acts the same way as crit draw, but it only applies if the attack doesn't already have KO. So for instance, it will add KO to the first hit of the superpound (whereas critdraw affects both), or else every hit of the spin (same as critdraw).


In general, if it doesn't require more than one button press, it counts as the one attack. This is also true for status applications, so you can abuse moves like charge or the spin for that (if the first hit procs, all hits will).

dainbramage wrote:

Possibly. Punishing draw acts the same way as crit draw, but it only applies if the attack doesn't already have KO. So for instance, it will add KO to the first hit of the superpound (whereas critdraw affects both), or else every hit of the spin (same as critdraw).


In general, if it doesn't require more than one button press, it counts as the one attack. This is also true for status applications, so you can abuse moves like charge or the spin for that (if the first hit procs, all hits will).

so... with punishing draw u can..... KO a monster with a spin attack?? but how much KO dmg??? (trying to see if its actually practical)

btw:
I CANT GET ANY LOS RUBIES!!! ONLY PLATES!!!!! GAHHHH
(despite i only need one ruby... /versad/ )

Best possible GS set? i got 1 with
Sharp+1
Crit Draw
Focus
Earplugs

just wondering what other good sets there are

^ Thanks for the input, guys!

@ Win32error, lol that's my exact set! :P haha

I think I prefer Crit Draw to Focus. Once I'm good at GS'ing I'll be able to time it well enough without Focus. Focus on hammering seems to only be of real use for situations where the monster is trapped, stunned or tripped. Another question arises:
Does Crit Draw only apply to the unsheathe-charge attacks?

Lord wrote:

^ Thanks for the input, guys!

@ Win32error, lol that's my exact set! :P haha

I think I prefer Crit Draw to Focus. Once I'm good at GS'ing I'll be able to time it well enough without Focus. Focus on hammering seems to only be of real use for situations where the monster is trapped, stunned or tripped. Another question arises:
Does Crit Draw only apply to the unsheathe-charge attacks?

yes

Lord wrote:

^ Thanks for the input, guys!

@ Win32error, lol that's my exact set! :P haha

I think I prefer Crit Draw to Focus. Once I'm good at GS'ing I'll be able to time it well enough without Focus. Focus on hammering seems to only be of real use for situations where the monster is trapped, stunned or tripped. Another question arises:
Does Crit Draw only apply to the unsheathe-charge attacks?

It works for all unsheathe attacks not just unsheathe charge ones.

Guys, i need your help. I want to know, is getting the CCP really, really, really worth the money? I don't have a good income, but if it really makes the game more enjoyable, I would try and get it.

Oh, and I also wanted to know if Skype makes coordination easier too. I JUST downloaded Skype because some people from here have it and tough that it could help, but i'm not so sure about it...
Oh, and would you mind chatting with someone whose english is not so good? English is my second language so you may not undersand me, but i could get better at english if i had practice, so i downloaded skype for that too, but it would be useless if you guys didn't understand me at all, or don't want to deal with someone whose english is not so good.

stayman_jacobi wrote:

Lord wrote:

^ Thanks for the input, guys!

@ Win32error, lol that's my exact set! :P haha

I think I prefer Crit Draw to Focus. Once I'm good at GS'ing I'll be able to time it well enough without Focus. Focus on hammering seems to only be of real use for situations where the monster is trapped, stunned or tripped. Another question arises:
Does Crit Draw only apply to the unsheathe-charge attacks?

It works for all unsheathe attacks not just unsheathe charge ones.

So basically I'll want to do Unsheathe Charge attacks all the time? I thought the unsheathe attacks were weaker, but maybe I mixed them up.

@ Tavok101, If you speak English just as good as you write, there should be no problem ^^ Most people here don't have English as their native tongue anyways (at least the EU players)

Lord wrote:

stayman_jacobi wrote:

Lord wrote:

^ Thanks for the input, guys!

@ Win32error, lol that's my exact set! :P haha

I think I prefer Crit Draw to Focus. Once I'm good at GS'ing I'll be able to time it well enough without Focus. Focus on hammering seems to only be of real use for situations where the monster is trapped, stunned or tripped. Another question arises:
Does Crit Draw only apply to the unsheathe-charge attacks?

It works for all unsheathe attacks not just unsheathe charge ones.

So basically I'll want to do Unsheathe Charge attacks all the time? I thought the unsheathe attacks were weaker, but maybe I mixed them up.

@ Tavok101, If you speak English just as good as you write, there should be no problem ^^ Most people here don't have English as their native tongue anyways (at least the EU players)

I don't think unsheathe attacks are weaker but I could be mistaken. Also focus isn't that good on a greatsword, you'll be much better off with Critical Draw

stayman_jacobi wrote:

I don't think unsheathe attacks are weaker but I could be mistaken. Also focus isn't that good on a greatsword, you'll be much better off with Critical Draw

Aight, thanks for the help, bro

ROGER wrote:

so... with punishing draw u can..... KO a monster with a spin attack?? but how much KO dmg??? (trying to see if its actually practical)

Each hit does 20KO, modified by sharpness. So a full spin at purple can do up to 252 KO including the finisher (1.5*[6*20 + 48] ) which is enough to KO most monsters. In reality though, you're only going to land a full spin against something that's trapped/paralyzed, so it's not that useful.

Duffman wrote:

Best possible GS set? i got 1 with
Sharp+1
Crit Draw
Focus
Earplugs

just wondering what other good sets there are

Depends on what charms you have. With the critdraw godcharm, I'd say this: http://divinewh.im/s/0_1f.u_1l_1a_1k.u_1i_1A.n.1l

If you need HGE you can switch it for the usual helios/vangis mix and get AuS, or if you don't need earplugs at all then full vangis and AuL.

So, i need some gunning help. Anyone got some good suggestion i can do with my lagi+ armour? I tried reload speed, but i really didn't see that much of a difference. Should i use barrage earring, and just regem most of the skills back in? Or is there something else i can do to increase damage?