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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeThu Oct 27, 2011 9:45 am

First topic message reminder :

ceadeus tail.... been farming for them and only got two (from the repel only quest)

in the decisive battle, I've broken his tail numerous times and never got a tail.... (do i actually have to go to the tail and carve????)

(got deep dragon gem almost very time..... and 2 elderdragon blood in one run too...)

or does the repel only quest (save moga village) have a higher drop rate???

MAJOR BAD LUCK?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 08, 2012 6:45 pm

i decided to start using bowguns more often, so what is the best set up for status inflicting (mainly sleep and para), and a bowgun that basically does the most damage

(and what does affinity on a bowgun do anyway)
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 08, 2012 8:15 pm

Lagia818 wrote:
i decided to start using bowguns more often, so what is the best set up for status inflicting (mainly sleep and para), and a bowgun that basically does the most damage

(and what does affinity on a bowgun do anyway)
Generally, you want to get a set with recoil down skills and status atk up. Uragaan+ with status atk up is the most recommended set, you even get bomb boost for blowing monsters faces up after they're sleeping too. As far as bowguns go for status, I don't know about that one.
Affinity for bowguns work just like they do for weapons, but only for physical hits. You can't boost element, crag/clust bomb, or status damage with affinity crits. Also, each hit of the shot has the chance for crit. This is mostly amateur with practice info, but I hope it helps.
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PostSubject: So question   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 9:10 am

With a Great Inceadeus, which of the two switch axe modes does more damage?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 10:30 am

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With a Great Inceadeus, which of the two switch axe modes does more damage?

Sword mode. Any Swax with a power Phial will do more damage in sword mode.
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 2:02 pm

Silverwind wrote:
Affinity for bowguns work just like they do for weapons, but only for physical hits. You can't boost element, crag/clust bomb, or status damage with affinity crits. Also, each hit of the shot has the chance for crit. This is mostly amateur with practice info, but I hope it helps.

While this is true, high rank bowguns have higher raw, and because of this, bowguns get more bang for buck out of affinity than attack up. With Melee, attack up is more beneficial.

https://mhwiki.forumotion.net/t6423p15-best-pierce-set#107363
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 2:21 pm

I'm still somewhat confused about that Cirt Eye VS Attack UP debate >_>
AuX will increase the bowguns attack by 10/15/20x1,2 but since it will get devided by the classmultiplier again in the damage formula the boost stays the same ( for all weapons (10,15,20)(thanks haruno for mentioning that somewhere @.@b))
So again, why is Crit Eye better than AuX for bowguns?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 2:38 pm

if the base raw is 200, 20 is 10%

if the base raw is 300, 20 is only 6.6%

Crit Eye gives 2.5%, 5%, and 7.5% based on your level of it.

so, if a weapon has raw 200, AuL beats 30% affinity
at raw 300, 30% affinity gonna beat AuL

That's the basic priciple, the link I posted has the math/cutoff points.


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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 2:42 pm

Ugthorf wrote:
if the base raw is 200, 20 is 10%

if the base raw is 300, 20 is only 6.6%

Crit Eye gives 2.5%, 5%, and 7.5% based on your level of it.

so, if a weapon has raw 200, AuL beats 30% affinity
at raw 300, 30% affinity gonna beat AuL

That's the basic priciple, the link I posted has the math/cutoff points.



ok @.@
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 2:50 pm

ummm lets say you got 340 raw, aux is 24 extra attack, crit+3 is 7,5% extra attack (25,5), so crit eye wins for any gun around 330 and above.
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeTue Jan 10, 2012 9:01 am

Hey guys, sorry for the bother.

What is the good use of [insert body part] Up skill (E.g.: Torso Up)? Currently, I use it to get better defense on my gathering armor (Skull Mask, Leather Vambrace + Torso + Belt, and LV6 Alloy Greaves).
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeTue Jan 10, 2012 1:28 pm

Bimasena009 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry for the bother.

What is the good use of [insert body part] Up skill (E.g.: Torso Up)? Currently, I use it to get better defense on my gathering armor (Skull Mask, Leather Vambrace + Torso + Belt, and LV6 Alloy Greaves).

Basically, torso up doubles the skill points on your chest armour. This is usefull in some skill sets, but not too much, because chests usually have low skill points, and few slots. An exception would be the Fortify jacket, but that's a specific one.
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Bimasena009 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry for the bother.

What is the good use of [insert body part] Up skill (E.g.: Torso Up)? Currently, I use it to get better defense on my gathering armor (Skull Mask, Leather Vambrace + Torso + Belt, and LV6 Alloy Greaves).

Basically, torso up doubles the skill points on your chest armour. This is usefull in some skill sets, but not too much, because chests usually have low skill points, and few slots. An exception would be the Fortify jacket, but that's a specific one.

Also, it's very useful for the Helios+ chest, since it gives you 5 Handicraft and 3 Hearing, which means you can use two torso up armor pieces to get Sharpness +1 and 9 points for hearing (or, instead of this, you can use one torso up armor piece and then use the Helios+ leggings, since it gives you the same skills, but has higher armor and looks WAY better than Gaan greaves). That's just another specific one I know about.
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeTue Jan 10, 2012 10:59 pm

is it worth using the gigas club w/ awaking, or should i just use thebalzing falchion?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 11, 2012 12:23 am

Lagia818 wrote:
is it worth using the gigas club w/ awaking, or should i just use thebalzing falchion?

Don't use Gigas Club. Its sharpness is just... no (Not even Sharpness +1 can help it). Use Blazing Falchion instead and buff yourself with Elemental Atk Up, AuL and/or Critical Eye +X
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 11, 2012 5:08 am

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Lagia818 wrote:
is it worth using the gigas club w/ awaking, or should i just use thebalzing falchion?

Don't use Gigas Club. Its sharpness is just... no (Not even Sharpness +1 can help it). Use Blazing Falchion instead and buff yourself with Elemental Atk Up, AuL and/or Critical Eye +X

Yeah, don't use the club. Gaan weapons do quite some damage, but for sns....maybe with speed sharp, but when you have to use awakening to make a weapon viable, you're doing it wrong.

If you use blazing falch, just go with sharpness+1 and AUL, see if you can get speed sharp too. Ele attack up is not advisable in most situations, especially for Blademasters.
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 11, 2012 9:28 pm

If you want to mess around with Adrenaline +2, you could make a mixed set consisting of the Hellhunter Jacket, Alloy Greaves and Barroth+ parts. This way you'll get some attack boosts and Fortify in case you accidentally screw up and don't want to risk using Adrenaline again in the hunt. It's a pretty fun set to use.

Also, if you like to use the GS, Blos chest and torso can be used, along with helios waist and rathian legs, and with a decent Crit Draw tali, you can use whatever helm you would like to get Crit Draw, Earplugs and any Earring skill.

ALSO! You could try out an OF lagi and Helios mix (lagi helm and chest, everything else helios) if you don't mind the low defence and want Sharpness+1.

These are just some of the things I use in low rank; I'm sure there are plenty of better ones that I haven't listed.
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 9:20 pm

should i get the jho hammer early by hunting jho in peco quests, or wait until i reach HR51?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 9:25 pm

Lagia818 wrote:
should i get the jho hammer early by hunting jho in peco quests, or wait until i reach HR51?

Wait 'till HR 51. You can only get the unupgraded version before HR 51, and that isn't too good. May be viable untill hr 40, but it's got low raw before the upgrade. You need conqueror's seals for that, only obtainable from 6 Quest lvl double monster quests.
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this is a realy stupid question but what does rapid fire mean on a bowgun??
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeFri Jan 13, 2012 2:06 am

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this is a realy stupid question but what does rapid fire mean on a bowgun??

It means that the bowgun fires three shots with one ammo with certain ammunitions. Of course, each shot is less powerful than what it would without rapid-fire. If you're planning to use it, make sure that all 3 shots hits the monster or you'll do less damage.

In some way, rapid fire is useful if you want to conserve ammo.
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeFri Jan 13, 2012 5:50 am

Rapidfire, if possible with bonus shot, should be used for elemental gunning, it's pretty much the only way to do real damage. It's probably the best with fire S, due to that shot's lack of piercing mechanics. Do NOT use it for pierce, it'll decrease your DPS, and you won't be able to use the pierce mechanic very well.

I think it might be viable for normal S, but i cannot say for sure. Most other shots won't really benefit or suffer too much. Oh, and don't use it for clusting, people will laugh at your longshot.

Note: Rapidfire eliminates the recoil between shots during a burst. The recoil after a burst is decided ONLY by your bowgun, Recoil Down skills won't have any effect.
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Hey, here's another bowgunning question: what's a practical way to use Normal S LV3?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 1:56 pm

Any good guides on hammering?

Also, is keyboard a necessary during serious online hunts, or do you guys use some other way to communicate? Is Capcom keyboard the only one that will work with Wii?
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PostSubject: Re: The Question Hotline   The Question Hotline - Page 16 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 14, 2012 2:04 pm

rubinek wrote:
Any good guides on hammering?

Also, is keyboard a necessary during serious online hunts, or do you guys use some other way to communicate? Is Capcom keyboard the only one that will work with Wii?

You can check out the guide section https://mhwiki.forumotion.net/t5553-hammer-guide
This one seems to be pretty good.

Main things: Infinite combo whenever the monster is disabled, use charges when it's running around. Aim for the head, but don't be too obsessed with it, especially when a monster's raging. 2 Ko's a fight is fine for most monsters. Skills you want are evade (probably the best), crit draw, and AUL/sharpness+1. You'll find out which comes in the best, that depends on your level of skill/playstyle.

Regarding the keyboard. It isn't neccessary, but it's damn nice. Especially discussing tactics is a pain without it, and it's generally more fun. You can actually talk during a quest, without losing too much time or being in too much danger.
Any USB keyboard should work (mine is some cheap chinese thing). Depending on where you sit and where the TV is, get a wireless one, or make sure the string is long enough

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Bimasena009 wrote:
Hey, here's another bowgunning question: what's a practical way to use Normal S LV3?

I don't think Normal Lv3 works really well in Tri since they are really.. really bouncy @.@
I guess you could try it on Jhen Mohran or Ceadeus
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