Monster Hunter U Q&A thread

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this is a thread to post questions for monster hunter U (both wiiu and 3ds versions),
just ask anything related to mhu gameplay,tips,general info,etc.




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Helios/Selene gives Water Atk, earplugs and partbreaker in 3U, unlike Tri there is no sharpness +1. Slime is not an option sadly. Pretend it isn't in the game, what would you use? Ice or dragon? I would you paralysis, but the paralysis lances at this point are so lacking in raw that they are irrelevant.

I just want to know if he is blue or red more often. If you aren't sure, please just let someone who is answer.

There's a balance of both modes.

Slime is obviously the best choice for this monster at this point for you. I don't see why you neglect the idea using Slime and instead go with something inappropriate such as paralysis since you don't want to get G rank gear for the viable paralysis weapons.

Also, there is no argument to not use slime. It is idiotic to think slime is the most over powered thing in the game, because its not; pellet, dragon S, HBG in general, normal, adrenaline, heroics, and other things are superior and broken in terms of damage to what slime can do in general, especially in single player. It's stupid to not use slime considering its the best advice someone can give to one who chooses to not achieve G rank and obtain G rank gear. Honestly, if you even want to do significant damage within a reasonable time with high rank gear, slime is the absolute best option for a blademaster.

TKMT wrote:

DanielisAwesome52 wrote:

You can bomb it off in Tri, and I had Guild Sweetheart tell me the hammer thing in Tri U

I've also broke it with a Lance, in both Tri and Tri U, but I believe Lance do Impact or Cut depending on which the monsters weak to on that part.

Also (at least with Barioth, since I've done it at least 4 times) if you flinch through the tail through shot or impact (and again with Bari at LR it takes about two hits after a tail flinch) you can cut a tail.

With that in mind I'm guessing with Barroth either an Impact ( Arc, Hammer, Hunting Horn, etc) or Blast (Barrel Bomb or Arc, prolly not Slime though) has to be inflicted after the Durability has been decreased beyond the break threshold

Cut damage is the only thing that helps cut tails. Helping cut a tail off with a hammer or bowgun shots(excluding slice shots) is impossible. They don't increase the cut damage necessary to snap a tail off.

Arc shot blast, I believe, has impact damage(correct if wrong), same as crag shots(correct if wrong, again), that's why shooting with the arc blast is able to snap Barroth's crown off.

I have never snapped Barroth's crown off with a bomb before.
Nor have I snapped it off with a lance. Wirh its shield, I have, but not with poking.

I've been bowing for a couple weeks now, and I definitely assist in cutting tails (even gotten at least one on my own, and two that kayamba stole , although Shakas do cut and impact with KO the cheating punks) with any shot, breaks (whether cut or impact reliant) are durability based, the ending blow has to be that type of damage yes, but as long as you reduce the durablity enough you can do it. I will admit though that there may be an amount of cut you have to do, but no matter how much you cut, if you inflict that cut amount before flinching it won't cut until after the flinch. For example it takes (unrealistically) it takes to Golf Swing combos to flinch a monsters tail, and it takes two flinches to cut (within the Data) it only takes one SnS combo, you dont have to do both flinches with SnS, just have to build up the One cut combo. At least thats how its been working, Barioth is a good test subject cause a LR one takes three Wyvern Blade Flame slashes after a flinch through it. But can also be flinched by a bow then cut by a single DB combo, and we've done that fight about 20-30 times with that setup and its been fairly consistent.

And I HAVE broken it with both Lance and Bombs, at least in Tri, that was the ONLY way me and my brother could break his head in Tri for the longest time, neither of us could efficiently Hammer him so we had to bring every Pitfall, Net, and Trap Tool we could, and as many Bombs we could fit just to get the darn thing off. And I have DEFINITELY broke it with a Lance, that's my Proudest moment in Tri, I was using my secondary Character, just made the Jaggi Armor and had to finish the Urgent Quest. Got my Spiral Lance and went at him (first time Lancing Barroth mind you) we were in Area 2, I was poking at his Right Leg, and he did his sideways bite move just as I did my upper poke, and he flew back, I bounced backwards and the Ridge landed right between us.

IceMage88 wrote:

I wouldn't refer to as crippling myself, but as challenging myself. Most of his attacks have quite high damage and I don't think very much high rank armor would hold up to more than two hits. I will not use slime. I haven't yet, and that will not change.

There is no high rank set that gives sharpness +1. On top of that it shouldn't be surprising I get hit, even though I have a great deal of experience with the lance, mistakes happen. I would be quite impressed if you have gameplay of yourself lancing Ala in high rank gear and coming out unscathed.

Perhaps I should reconsider my question. Would it be more effective to use an ice weapon, or a dragon weapon given how much he spends red/blue?

1. Pretty sure Alatreon will OHKO someone in high rank gear, so have fun with that.

2.What sai has already stated is totally true, slime is not OP and is indeed the best choice for where you are at in the game, seriously, stop this "SLIME IS SHO AW PEY" circlejerk.

DanielisAwesome52 wrote:

I've been bowing for a couple weeks now, and I definitely assist in cutting tails

If you assisted in terms of using ammo other than Slicing S, you are incorrect. Only cutting damage can decrease a sever-able monster part's health meter. Using Slicing S is also a waste of time and ammo considering you will need a lot of them to cut the tail. I would just go blademaster at this point, assuming you are playing single player.

Will wrote:

IceMage88 wrote:

I wouldn't refer to as crippling myself, but as challenging myself. Most of his attacks have quite high damage and I don't think very much high rank armor would hold up to more than two hits. I will not use slime. I haven't yet, and that will not change.

There is no high rank set that gives sharpness +1. On top of that it shouldn't be surprising I get hit, even though I have a great deal of experience with the lance, mistakes happen. I would be quite impressed if you have gameplay of yourself lancing Ala in high rank gear and coming out unscathed.

Perhaps I should reconsider my question. Would it be more effective to use an ice weapon, or a dragon weapon given how much he spends red/blue?

1. Pretty sure Alatreon will OHKO someone in high rank gear, so have fun with that.

2.What sai has already stated is totally true, slime is not OP and is indeed the best choice for where you are at in the game, seriously, stop this "SLIME IS SHO AW PEY" circlejerk.

1 In the attempts I have made so far, he has yet to OHKO me at 150 health.

2 This really says a lot. I'll leave it at that. Maybe, instead of trying to criticize others' choices in the QUESTION AND ANSWER thread, you could have either answered my question or not posted.

I have answered your question with the best possible advice. You obviously want damage so I am giving you the most helpful information yet you disregard it. Criticizing other's choices is how people will learn about new information and new tactics, unless you believe in the default "criticizing means ridiculing" kind of thing.

Considering I have stated many times that Alatreon changes his weakness too much to make elemental helpful, and since you want advice on what supplementary to use whether its elemental or status, there is no definite answer or a reason to ask if ice or dragon is best for Alatreon, because clearly there is no best. I would suggest going with the highest raw, but there's no point since high raw would be more efficient at G rank which you don't want to achieve either. Brachydios' lance has decent raw, semi-good sharpness, and slime all compliment towards a damaging set.

Oh, don't worry, I am aware you are criticizing my choices, but you weren't ridiculing me. I was much more unhappy with will's reply.

I understand what your saying, and it makes sense, I'm just too stubborn is all. I will be using G rank gear to farm village Alatreon, but I want to kill my first one without it, just to say I could.

I guess I'll probably just go with dragon since it is slightly weaker to it. Hopefully it spends more time blue than red, but I'm sure after enough tries I will know for sure which is more suitable.

If you are going to go with dragon you will need him to be in the air for most of the time which gives Alatreon high mobility, however during ground mode you have most of the advantage.

You could also give GS a try, which I did on my first time and it didn't go so well but after 2-3 more runs, I got used to lv3 charging his head on turn and being able to break his horns within 4 minutes and a kill within 18 mins. With GS burst damage, you don't have to worry too much of attacking constantly and only worrying about those lv3 charges to the head on all opportunities.

That's actually quite a good idea, especially since I'm looking into learning either Hammer or GS since I almost solely lance. I'm assuming that was a g-rank GS? I have to imagine even stepping down a few upgrades, if you could get an 18 minute kill, a 50 minute kill would have to be possible with high rank.

Yeah, with G rank GS.

Can easily be done with a high raw + sharpness GS

just get razor sharp, adrenaline+2 (you should be playing it safe anyways with high rank armor), and attack up, but most importantly the two former ones.

at this point, you'd want focus + razor sharp + adrenaline +2. Here is a set for your current status, although you can only get razor sharp and focus and AuS, because you'd need g rank gear for adrenaline+2

Rath Soul Helm
Lagiacrus Mail
Agnaktor Vambraces
Barioth Faulds U
Vangis Greaves

2x Charger Jewel 3
2x Attack Jewel 2
2x Razor Jewel 1

One slot charm

Skills: AuS, Razor sharp, Focus. This should be only used on GS.

I got to High Rank the other day and saw the incredible difference of defense between LR and HR armors. So, should I neglect the forging of LR armors because of its feeble defense or should I forge them anyway?

ShadowCeadeusDM324 wrote:

I got to High Rank the other day and saw the incredible difference of defense between LR and HR armors. So, should I neglect the forging of LR armors because of its feeble defense or should I forge them anyway?

I'd recommend you to forgot low rank armors. Fully upgraded hr armors have still some use in the G-rank. But with low ranks you can't keep on going much longer. (some exeptions here, but if ya are a normal player, I recommend ya to forge hr armors.)

ShadowCeadeusDM324 wrote:

I got to High Rank the other day and saw the incredible difference of defense between LR and HR armors. So, should I neglect the forging of LR armors because of its feeble defense or should I forge them anyway?

I'd say that all depends on your own preference. If you are try to collect all the armor sets, then you wouldn't want to neglect it. However, it is fairly important to get an earlier high rank set of armor due to the defense difference you mentioned. Early high rank is manageable with low rank, but later on in high rank it will start to become quite difficult without high rank armor.


Out of curiousity, in order to get brkn skypiercers, do you need to break both of Ala's horns? From what I remember in Tri, you had to break both to both horns to get skypiercers. Does it work the same way in 3U?

you cant collect all the armour sets, there isnt enough inventory room.

brkn skypiercers were a carve in tri, so i shall presume the same of mh3u.

edit: with skypiercers, you have to break both horns for a chance. i have heard that you can carve them from the g rank version though, but it isnt out yet of course.

Chagrilled wrote:

you cant collect all the armour sets, there isnt enough inventory room.

brkn skypiercers were a carve in tri, so i shall presume the same of mh3u.
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edit: with skypiercers, you have to break both horns for a chance. i have heard that you can carve them from the g rank version though, but it isnt out yet of course.

Just to clarify, I'm only interested in the brkn ones. The program "Ping's MH3G Dex" lists them as 10% carve chance and 50% for "break horn". I know in Tri the regular skypiercers required both horns to be broken. However I only want the broken ones.

IceMage88 wrote:

Chagrilled wrote:

you cant collect all the armour sets, there isnt enough inventory room.

brkn skypiercers were a carve in tri, so i shall presume the same of mh3u.
https://2img.net/i/fa/empty.gif
edit: with skypiercers, you have to break both horns for a chance. i have heard that you can carve them from the g rank version though, but it isnt out yet of course.

Just to clarify, I'm only interested in the brkn ones. The program "Ping's MH3G Dex" lists them as 10% carve chance and 50% for "break horn". I know in Tri the regular skypiercers required both horns to be broken. However I only want the broken ones.

Yes. You can get them without even touching the horns. As I have gotten some without breaking either of the horns.

Hey All.

I am new to the MH series.

At this point I am doing all the quests in moga village (at 5* atm), however I have the following question.

1. Is there any good guide out there on how to solo Hi / G-Rank content.
2. What are the best things I can do to prepare for when G Rank comes. (I have 3DS so online is no option)
3. Atm I use LS / DS / Hammer most of the times, I know all weapons are good but I am pretty sure some may be easier than others to master, what would you recommend to work towards when facing G-Rank for the first time. Same with armor, what armor(s) should you work towards when going to Hi/G-Rank solo.

Thanks for any info !

devilution wrote:

Hey All.

I am new to the MH series.

At this point I am doing all the quests in moga village (at 5* atm), however I have the following question.

1. Is there any good guide out there on how to solo Hi / G-Rank content.

Early High Rank/G-Rank armor is helpful. Jaggi sets are popular because they give ample defense to get you through until you have access to better sets, and you can easily gem in Attack Up (L). Each monster does have one or two extra moves, but if you learned anything from Low Rank, you'll eventually figure out how to evade and survive. Check out the wiki if you're having trouble with a specific monster and learn the moves. When in doubt, circle and observe.

devilution wrote:

2. What are the best things I can do to prepare for when G Rank comes. (I have 3DS so online is no option)

High Rank Jhen set is marvelous and sometimes highly underrated. It gives good defense, and you can gem in Defense Up (L) and Critical Eye +3. Focus is a bonus for the weapons you use. Other than that, same advice as aforementioned. When you upgrade a good hammer or LS (rusted hammer works, or brachy hammer/ls works as well), Jhen is not difficult to farm, especially since you have a village quest for it. Be sure to watch a video or read up on how to use ballista binders/hunting horn/dragonator to be able to complete the quest.

devilution wrote:

3. Atm I use LS / DS / Hammer most of the times, I know all weapons are good but I am pretty sure some may be easier than others to master, what would you recommend to work towards when facing G-Rank for the first time. Same with armor, what armor(s) should you work towards when going to Hi/G-Rank solo.

Thanks for any info !

I used Bows heavily in MHFU when I got to G-Rank because everything was one-/two-shotting me, even with fully upgraded armor. I got used to evading and throwing in arrows when the opportunity presented itself. Eventually I learned the moves of each monster and I gradually got better using LS and Hammer for those fights.

In regards to MH3U, the level difference isn't as crazy. As many have said before, the game was designed to be soloed for the most part, including the Guild quests. Don't be afraid to learn bows and bowguns. They are surprisingly useful for certain situations, especially when you want to stay away from Giggi's poison attacks and Ivory Lagi's thunder attacks. They DO hit hard if you can't get away.

You might want to also consider using the lance/gunlance. Working with a shield can be useful when encountering roars, tremor, wind, and unavoidable attacks. Blocking and poking with a lance is surprisingly effective, and when you learn to dodge more attacks, lance attacks do quite a lot of damage.

I'm personally not a fan of the GS, but you should try it as well.

Good luck!

Thank you Sakura ! That is some solid advice you gave me, I am going to put it to good use.

As for a LS set, some people play differently, but I use a Helios Z and X combo for HGE, Sharp+1 Evasion+1 and focus, to me it's a good all rounder set when starting G Rank, hope that helps out too.

Devil: a lot of MH is trile and error and discovering what works best for you. Don't get frustrated if you spend hours trying to defeat something and are unable to, just try something else. In the end you will have a feeling of accomplishment if you keep at it that you find in no other game when you discover that, "You can do this, you know what that monsters about to do next and you have the skill to defeat it!"

Thanks guys for all the responses ^^ I won't give up before I soloed the entire game !

I got two final newbie question for you guys:

1. Is it possible to both go blademaster and gunner by just switching weapons and armor?
2. Are the charm tables really important? If so what is the best 'general' table, cause in the end I would like to master all weapons anyway :D

Table 6 has most of the god charms. Table 10 is so overrated.